Fixing WoW Economy: Buy Orders

Isn’t that exactly how the AH works in GW2?

I don’t think Buy Orders will fix anything. Who would put in a Buy Order to offer more for items than they can get on “Buy It Now?”

The auction house hasn’t been an auction house for a long time. People don’t bid on anything. They just buy it now. It is a marketplace.

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You could set a Buy Order and try to fetch items for lower prices to resell or to put to use in a profession. It will not fix everything single handed, but it’s a great start for setting up a future economy.

Totally buying puts on crafting mats three weeks out. Let’s go boys.

Maybe, never been to GW2. I’ve seen it in Albion Online.

I do miss my buy order setup from eve.

I know I need say 10 million trit (an ore in eve). I could scan the markets to buy this. Or I put up a buy order for 10 million trit, at the price I want, and walk away.

Miners fill it up in time if they dig the price. Or they don’t. case of the latter I look at my price and adjust if desired.

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I believe there’s nothing like the feeling of being rewarded for you farming. WoW’s been a wild gamble for so long and I still can’t believe it’s been out for 16 years without a fix for such a simple MMORPG standard.

I could play this game for years for the farming alone.

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That won’t solve anything since buyers and sellers would still be far apart. They just need to connect more realms. I don’t know why they stopped for a long while.

This would actually be really neat. For the longest time I never used the AH. I was the dummy vendoring crafting mats that weren’t for my profession and all sorts of consumables and BoEs. Especially so if they were from an out of date expansion.

It would be pretty cool if I could check the auction house for “buy orders” for older materials, decided I like the return, and go and farm a bit.

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Buy orders just shift the problem from sellers to buyers. Instead of sellers undercutting each other to have the lowest/first price, buyers will be overcutting each other to have the top/first price.*

Though if you use both, you can complain about both!

*Seriously, real goblins will set a pretty high buy-order price for most mats, since they know how much money they can make from them. Good luck trying to buy 5 of them for cheap when someone’s got an outstanding order for 1,000,000 of them.

No thanks, I don’t want a guild wars 2 AH

It get more market transactions and let players have fun playing the game at the same time.

You drop say 5 buy orders for stuff and leave to play the game. In my mind hanging around AH for 2 hours is not playing the game. taking out mobs in open world/dungeon/raid is.

So let me want say 5 mogs items. I hate the gouged prices for them. I can sit there for 3 hours and see if some mog farmer is there to drop the price on their post. this has me not play the game as I see it.

Or…I drop 5 buy orders, go farm anima and such and in the course of 2 hours I see the “I have mail” icon come up. Check my mail at the end and I filled buy order for 3 items and I go “cool”…

lets make this a best case and I go to bed. To wake up next day and see I have mail again. And…the 2 remaining buy orders are filled.

I got what I wanted and some player got gold. While I slept even…This is the beauty of buy orders. The money can flow even when players aren’t playing.

BUy orders would get the market true 24/7 sales (23 hours on Tuesday ofc). As sales happen when players aren’t even in the AH.

Currently I might hit AH a few minutes every few days. I see prices I won’t pay and leave. This is not how the game gets money out of my wallet.

Me putting 5 buy orders for say a total of 200k gold would get the money out of the wallet.

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That can be easily thwarted with a buying order cap though. I understand it may defeat the purpose of the system, but it’s still something we can think about.

wow. look at how much time you spend thinking on something as pointless as making gold.

for there to be any justification whatsoever for this, you must think that the real economy of trading objects for a number in a database is incredibly valuable to the human experience, and so therefore any virtual representation of it must necessarily be robust enough to satisfy your personal preferences.

and yet.

there’s no reason to expect the real economy is good enough to stand as an intrinsically good example for virtual ones. there’s no reason to think it isn’t horribly rigged. there’s no particular reason to suspect the real human economy is permanent. are we always going to be trading numbers for objects and services? is that what you think awaits in the future of human endeavor?

because if so, i think your vision of the future is one i’d never want to be part of. to maintain participation in a certain vision of a specific type of economy, you need a massive centralization of power. which always leads to corruption, war, and worse. much worse.

what the future needs much more of, is decentralization. why do we have power stations, instead of every home being self-sustainable? it is so a centralized entity can exert power over us by force. coercion mostly, but they wont hesitate to use force, though these days that is mostly classed as legal force, but it is a violence nonetheless.

what if i don’t like your economic ideas? what if i think they’re stupid? the only way you can make me buy into the system is to create a huge centralized entity and then bully me into it, saying i have no other choice. that its “just how things are done.” that is in fact, the modern world that short sighted folks like yourself have already created. must look pretty good outside to you then, i guess?

personally, the future i see doesn’t need people like you, who obsess over these horribly trivial and unimaginative things.

You seem offended I somehow “took your freedom away” but I literally made a post to ask people about their opinions of a “maybe” system for WoW.

I understand your opinion may be to fight against something like this, yet, desiring me “out of your future” certainly is an interesting point of view.

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OK that’s a good scenario where buy orders could help transactions occur.

you’re like any lobbyist in a broken system.

“hay guyz. i thought of a way to make this work more in my favor. cause people keep undercut me. that’s annoying. so here’s this cool system that makes it easier for me. oh and you all too. yeah. easier for all of us. cause undercuttin sux amirite? heh heh… heheh.”

No I’m just someone who hates to stand in front of the Auction House checking undercuts all day just to see if I can sell my herbs to a player.

If the Auction House is opressive to you, maybe don’t use it?

why is undercutting bad ?

Undercutting goes brrrr.

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