Fixing Older Content in WoW

Hello everyone, Drmochi here. I think its about time we address the elephant in the room for those leveling. Older content.

I can understand right now that endgame content will always be the priority, but with the current state of older content in WoW, there are some many issues that have to be addressed in order for everyone who wishes to have an alt stick around in said content.

Issue #1 Dungeons and Dungeon Finder
Now this isn’t just only the Dungeon Finder bug that occurs at 51+ that takes away all but a couple dungeons depending on the expansion you’ve chosen, but this deals with mostly the classic expansion content. Let’s take an example, if you get Blackrock Depths in your random queue when it pops. The mobs inside this dungeon hit twice as hard as mobs from other expansion dungeons such as Cata, MoP, and WoD, and if you have bad luck (i.e getting Gorosh the Dervish in the ring of law), then prepare to skip this as he will mow down your tank quicker than any other dungeon boss. Alot of these dungeons need to be looked at and balanced for new or returning players.

Issue #2: Gearing Up
As of right now doing Warlords of Draenor dungeons is the best way to gear up as the gear can Warforge, putting it on par with either scaled mythic dungeons, or raids. For example any gear I get at 59 from WoD dungeons as a chance to warforge to ilvl216. This puts it on par with heroic Castle Nathria raid gear. Now I’m not saying that’s a bad thing, but this turns off players from doing other dungeons in expansion such as Burning Crusade, Wrath of the Lich King, etc. My suggestion is this.

Remove Warforging and instead allow the dungeon items the chance to upgrade to epic (like how the rare mobs from BC and higher expansions can drop rare loot and it has a chance to upgrade to epic or like items from quests have that chance). This can allow people who have alts and wish to stay in Chromie Time the opportunity to choose other expansions and participate in dungeons they really want to.

Issue #3: Heroic Dungeon Tab
This needs to be removed when in Chromie Time. Seriously unless you plan on letting people who have actually hit the requirement and scale it up to 60 in the future, this tab just mocks anyone whenever they switch to the specific dungeons tab. It serves no purpose other than sitting there and saying “You must advance to a higher level.”

Issue #4: World Quest Gear, Gear tokens from Timeless Isle, Tanaan Jungle, etc
Personally there is alot of people who still go to these areas and have fun. I think these should be allowed to scale up to level 60 to give players another incentive to participate in older content other than the traveler’s log. Example is the Luminous Relic Ring from the Overgrown Relic in Tanaan Jungle. Back when SL when gear for here was ilvl44-46 depending if it warforged even in chromie time, this particular ring at 49 would actually scale up, either being ilvl60, or ilvl61 if it upgraded to epic, and it still does.

Issue #5: Older PvP Gear
Its good that Blizzard have scaled the PvP gear to match the highest raids of each expansion (i.e. 115, 130, 146), however Legion and above are missing their Gladiator gear. This takes away from players who enjoy PvPing at lower level or do not have the Dragonflight expansion, meaning those who had acquired the sets before they were removed will be ahead of those who don’t have access to it. As I’ve seen, the gear from Legion and BFA, while no longer available have been scaled as well. Legion PvP gear is ilvl163, while the Corrupted Gladiator gear is ilvl181. My suggestion is bringing back these pieces for those who have done everything in endgame content and want to play on their low level alts or their 60s still in Shadowlands.

Issue #6: Older Raid Gear
Now this is the least issue unless your using them in Timewalking dungeons, but this is probably what is contributing to the dungeon finder bug as some of these trinkets cannot be used above 50 as they say they effects only work for players 49 or below. Meaning when BFA timewalking does happen, alot of these trinkets will not be useable for them. I would raise it to where its now only usable for those 60 or lower. We know we will eventually get BFA and SL timewalking, not to mention the gear from raids like Dragon Soul Heroic and Siege of Orgrimmar Mythic for 35s is weaker than their expansion PvP gear, and Mythic Hellfire Citadel gear is weaker than the WoD PvP gear with the exception of the Demon Hunter pieces being at ilvl151 at 40.

Now these are just my opinions and suggestions for fixing up older content. If you guys have other suggestions that I didn’t think of or opinions of what I have posted, feel free to voice them. Let’s make the game for those playing more enjoyable. :slightly_smiling_face:

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Don’t fix what isn’t broken.

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You’re really just asking for Warforging to be added to the other expansions. The quest/rare quality upgrade chance thing already boosts items to the same ilvl as warforged WoD gear in certain expansions. It’s the same system.

Warforging is not titanforging, it’s a 1-step upgrade.

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This is the most annoying thing for me. Seeing the majority of dungeons just vanish at 51. When you are below that level all of the dungeons have various starting levels but they all end at level 60. Except for when you hit 51 and they go poof.

And yeah Heroic? I’ve never been able to get geared up enough to be able to run any heroic, while in Chromie time. Of course, the Heroic versions also go poof with the rest of them.

They’re asking for enhancements, arguing over semantics is useless.

While that is true, what I mean is like how when you get a rare piece from a rare in the world and it procs epic, it only upgrades it 10 item levels, not 26 item levels. Removing warforging and adding this in would instead make the dungeons items only upgrade 10 item levels if they proc epic. So weaker than what Warforging is currently. :slightly_smiling_face:

There’s quest gear that behaves the same as warforging is what I’m saying. It’s not consistent is all. I guess that’s fine though, you’re just saying to normalize it.

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Just open all zones to dragon flight and scale up some toons.