Haha you’re right I didn’t consider that you just didn’t login for Wrath, my bad.
I wonder how much honor all of that S2 gear was in S4.
I saw this floating in a different thread the other day, here’s an example:
ttps://seventyupgrades.com/set/qYdTzcrZwKXPCS2F5jHJ5R
Just scroll down on the page to see the cost of each individual piece. It actually will be much worse then for a full set of catch up gear than it is now, which is a depressing thought.
Yah I’m aware.
I don’t think honor rates are correct right now.
Unfortunately I can’t find any proof and it seems the community can’t either.
Rewards dropped by 15% each new season and in season 4 the season 1 gear was removed and season 2 gear went from requiring arena points to needing honor points and BG tokens.
I was just curious how much they cost in S4 to try and get a better idea of the honor rates at the time.
Edit: I see that your link has that information but lists them as arena points instead of honor points.
You know it’s bad if people who play wow as a job even have a problem with it.
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I would agree, I do not remember it being this bad.
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No it doesn’t? But if for some reason you can’t get the link to work, just create a templated character yourself on seventy upgrades and you can view the cost for each piece of gear in season 4 for the catch up gear to see how expensive it is. OP is right that its pushing 280,000 which is insanity with the current honor rates.
This is what is really sad. Anyone who wants to experience all of what TBC has to offer, i.e. leveling up, doing your attunements, working on professions, doing dungeons, doing raiding, and doing PvP as well is essentially stuck choosing between doing no PvP, or doing ONLY PvP as it is that time consuming of a grind. Every other aspect of the game feels like it has a good ratio of time investment–>satisfying reward, but PvP is like 10x more of a time investment for less of a reward. It takes me anywhere between 5-10x less time to get fully kara attuned, all heroic keys, pre-bis farmed, and raiding and obtaining epics out of raids than it does for me just to farm a set of Blue main set pieces and epic offset pieces from battlegrounds.
It really is sad, cause I’m starting to see more guildies and friends quit PvP and some quit the game altogether which makes queues worse and the entire game just worse for everyone. There’s no way Blizzard is oblivious to this problem, but we just gotta hope they recognize it as such and are working internally on a real solution.
It seems looking at it on a phone makes it list them as arena points.
If those numbers are accurate, that’s painful.
This is exactly how it was in BC. Not sure what you want them to do.
Yeah this is insane lol. All I see are logical math driven arguments on here pointing out how absurd it is for any normal person who has a life, and then people simping for blizz. It’s litterally one of the two, when it comes to people on here, no in between. Weird. And like, I’m trying to understand why someone simps for a major corporation, like do you expect them to hire you or something? I wanna know why people simp in this manner online. I’d like to understand your mind set. Like I get the motivation on why people simp irl for women, but like, what’s your end goal when it comes to this situation? Why are you the way you are?
Even if the honor rates are correct to how they were back then (which many people think they aren’t), the game is being played much differently now. It’s the same concept as world buffs in Classic. It created an incredibly unhealthy meta and game environment which made it a bad experience for a lot of players and many quit the game because of it. Here we have Horde queues much longer than they were in original TBC, Horde flying around on mounts and dive bombing lower level Ally at much higher rates than they were back in original TBC, and a tiny select group of the playerbase who gained a significant advantage over the rest by taking advantage of super boosted honor rates during TBC prepatch.
What do I want them to do? Recognize people are playing the game differently now and respond accordingly to create a better experience for everyone. And in my opinion, the way to do that is to buff honor rates. It just seems asinine and unintelligent to me to try to argue “well this is how it was back then” when we’ve already seen droves of changes to TBC Classic compared to original TBC as well as a playerbase playing the game much differently now than they did back then.
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