Fix the lost city of tol' vir

smooth brains have it in their heads that going out of their way to skip 1 pack of mobs is faster and its breaking the dungeon you guys designed. put up walls to stop the terrain abuse or just cave and let us just skip to the last boss in every dungeon for insta Valor which is what everyone wants anyway!

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Unplayable indeed.

Refund!

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Smoother brains can’t count and don’t understand that you’re skipping 11 packs not 1.

This is LITERALLY what you can do after the 1st boss in Tol’Vir. 0 trash mobs need to die after the 1st boss.

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Skips in reg and H dungeons are ‘ok’ But IMO really only if you are in a premade or guild group who know that is the plan - not for pugs.

People forget not everyone hit lvl 85 2 months ago, ran those dungeons multiple times already and are still working rep etc. If you are going to do skips in pugs - the Tank/Lead should say so at the start so people can ask for that NOT to happen for X reason.

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I agree snd will never skip the packs when i tsnk. Groups have wiped more than actually getting past.

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Can’t fix it because they can’t find it. It is lost after all.

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Why? Even if the pug messes up you can still mass rez them.

If people just laughed off those little mishaps, mass rezzed and moved on, sure. But not with the state of what the game is today. You get wipes because of messed up skip tries and that results in vote kicks etc.

What is wrong with playing the game as intended lol?

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How do you know they didn’t intend for you to be able to skip the trash in there? The 1st skip is very easy to do and the 2nd skip and run to the safe spot just requires you to not heal or attack anything… It’s not rocket science.

But, as I said before. If YOU don’t want to do the skip, then don’t do it, take the extra 7 to 10 minutes to kill the trash mobs. No skin off my rump. Me… I’ll continue to skip them as I have for weeks now with no real issues. To each their own.

Is that without a full group of stealthers? I know a lot of it can be skipped but I’m sure those guarding the tunnels can’t be.

Not a big deal either way of course but if you can truly skip every single pack after the first boss then color me impressed.

I understand what you are saying and if it works for you then great, but I think you’re missing my point.

If you are in a Pug with newer level 85’s who do not know the dungeon or the skips and for example still working rep, then as a group they should be allowed to ask for skips to ‘not happen’. I get it that quicker Valor is nice, but not all players are in the same place in the game as others.

I was in a few groups that tried the ‘skip’ and it did not work, but instead of just killing the mobs as intended they kicked the healer and a DPS saying they ‘failed’. Sorry but I think that skips should be OK’d by the whole group at the start before assuming it is fine with all in the group.

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Truer words have seldom been spoken.

It takes less time to kill them than it does to skip them. Whoever introduced this “skip” needs to step on the biggest Lego ever.

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No anybody can skip it. You just run by it all. Tank pulls slightly ahead of everybody, and everybody just runs to the safe spot, jumps up and all the mobs reset.

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No… I’m not missing your point.

This was not the argument presented, never has been. The argument was that it does not save time, not that the skip should never happen because people are farming rep. Just because I’ve proven you wrong, don’t start moving the goalpost.

Once again, I’ve never said that you should FORCE others to do the skip if they don’t want. That was never the argument, nor was it even remotely presented that way.

Except it’s not 1 pack, it’s a total of 11 that you’re skipping. You don’t have to kill a single trash mob after the 1st boss.

The fact that a hunter (shocking) does not understand this, and can’t read properly to follow the logic, does not suprise me at all. You all have your reputation for a reason I guess.

First, even if you only do the 1st part of that skip, it’s still 3 packs not 1. And second, if your’e only doing the first part of the skip, then yes, I agree pointless. But those of us without an IQ number smaller than our shoe size know that you don’t just do the 1st skip. If you’re going to do it, you do both skips.

You can’t be that upset over like 2 mobs being skipped lmao

Now it feels like you’re just posting to be argumentative. The OP basically said put in ways/walls to stop skipping or allow skipping trash and go right to the bosses and he said ‘in every dungeon’ not just Tol’Vir.

My post was about why skips can work (with guild or party groups) and not always with others like pugs - seeing both sides, and saying if skips are going to happen it should be decided by the whole group ahead of time making sure the group is OK with it. Other dungeons have skips as well.

Your posts seem to be argumentative posts replying to all just to post.

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You must be either really low IQ, really young (in your early 20s), or both. This is probably the case, honestly.

To conclude that I’m upset is a twist in logic that even Joe Biden couldn’t reach. Congrats, you’re dumber than him.

I’m not mad at all. I’m simply stating that people such as yourself don’t understand the skip and why it saves so much time. Low IQ posters are like birds of a feather, they flock together. You and your ilk need to work on reading comprehension, game knowledge, and basic fundamental understanding of emotion (or in this case, the lack thereof).

It’s okay, though. You must first be young and dumb to become old and wise. You’ll get there someday… maybe.

The name of the thread is literally “Fix the lost city of tol’vir”. You can’t be this stupid.

You also added little jabs like —

Making your post argumentative. Obviously I’m going to point out the flawed logic in the rest of your posts after that. That’s on you.

Also, I never said that a group should be forced to do the skips. If I’m tanking and somebody said “Hey I need rep, can we just clear”. Well then yes… I’m going to do the full clear. But MOST people are spamming heroics for Valor and not for rep.

Pot meet kettle.

Oh I am sorry, did you just read the title and respond and read nothing in the OP’s actual post? Where they actually said ‘put up walls to stop the terrain abuse or just cave and let us just skip to the last boss in every dungeon for insta Valor’ and then have the nerve to say ‘I’ can’t be that stupid?

And then taking it so personal as if you were being singled out when I made a general statement of ‘What is wrong with playing the game as intended lol?’ Paranoid much??

But I get it now!! I looked up all your posts and ALL you do it basically argue, make your points and don’t except others, non-stop calling others issues BS because it did not happen to you, etc. LMAO made my day.

Please keep posting and I will continue looking for them. It has been a while since the Forums E-Peen strokers ran amuck on here and it is very entertaining. Grabbing popcorn for your inevitable rant response rofl.