You realize my team has the best ret in the game right lol
SV hunters actually are bad because their entire spec is designed around playing to win which is just not possible in this meta and even though rets do a ton of damage when games get to high enough dampening they simply die and any tanky spec still won’t die to them even with full uptime on crusade
You have no clue what you’re talking about lmao
Yea ur first mistake is letting the game go to dampening as Cupid. You are a 1 shot comp its no diff from TWD.
If you are not globaling healers or struggling at all as Cupid ur doing something wrong. I can pop every Offensive Cd I have and I will not outburst a Ret and they have bubble/bop to stay offensive.
Like idk lmao all these R1s and glads don’t know how to play the game. Its a PvE game, do big damage and win, you don’t need to do anything else. 2550 and all I did was train/tunnel heals with random LFG players.
Yeah you’re definitely trolling
LOOL yea even when i’m serious i’m “trolling”. Cupid is one of the scariest comps in the game and I usually lose to it. I sit in a frost trap all game while my healer getting hit for 20k DPS by a ret + Survs high burst damage (explosive trap thing rofl). Its a healer race you rarely can win.
Ret is worthless outside of wings/burst, if ur not playing the comp as a 1shot idk what you’re even doing.
Edit: You have 58% winrate as a multi R1 player you’re slipping towards negative winrate. It’s your playstyle m8 “best ret in the world” and losing.
Lol if you honestly believe this you’re a donut
I’m sorry to hear how bad you are at this game
You haven’t played any competitive games at a high level then, it’s impossible to die unless you’re actually horrendous. You can gib a ladder game vs a horrible ladder team but it’s not a realistic win condition vs any high team
We play our jungle more on ladder than anything and ladder games mean nothing compared to TR anyways.
Win rate on ladder games never means anything, especially in r1 range because when you’re fighting top players and playing enough games you’re never going to have a 100% win rate lol, especially when your comps/classes are absolutely mediocre.
Obviously that’s your goal, no one will die at all from all those CDs until deep dampening hence you can’t play disc ret hunter in a competitive environment you just play with a resto druid hope for 60% dampening vs other teams and go for a win and realistically if they have an iq over 12 they won’t die.
You somehow assume that we’re not doing all of those things and if you’re not trolling than you are just sadly very, very lost. It’s not going to happen vs any real team where they just die. You also assume we somehow don’t know rets damage is all based around wings?
Explosive trap as a damage ability hasn’t existed at all for SV since Legion, you again have no idea what you’re talking about
SV hunters and ret hunter will basically only beat players that are entirely clueless and cheese them and once you fight any team that even slightly knows what they’re doing win conditions aren’t going to happen even with the strongest hunter comps available because the objective is still to win the game and not be immortal.
Legitimately if you’re not trolling you just are entirely clueless lol
Im telling you right now you’re trying to make excuses to Buff a comp that is literally T1. Cupid beats every melee comp in the game other than maybe Dh/dk.
Let’s say I play TSG, yeh? Neither me or the Warr has a purge. You train our healer as 3 Dps because the disc is gonna dish out 5k+ dps too, we try to kill either ret or disc, we literally can’t.
The ret is going to bubble or bop and if we go disc ret is gonna Bop him and we can’t damage him at all or purge it while you have 100% uptime on our healer. Like seriously everytime I que into Cupid thats exactly what happens. You tunnel heals and we watch him die, can’t prevent it, i spam chains, pally does freedom.
Ur the only cupid player not doing 1shot
Why is your resto druid not in bear form or MW just saving trinket+port for CDs that are happening, and you not using Zone on wings anyways since it’s a ton of magic damage.
You can also just train the disc priest if you’re playing TSG but TSG isn’t a strong comp anyways because warriors are also horrendous so if you’re going to use two tier 2 comps fighting vs each other as an example then you’re not really getting anywhere
WWDK, or DHDK are the comps you should be playing as DK lol. If you were ever truly in trouble vs ret hunter you could just rotate zone/darkness, etc. on any of their CDs and just don’t die there then you win the game, not really a super hard concept actually to just CD trade defensively in which case they’ve lost their only win condition. If you’re letting the disc pump the entire game you’re messing up lol.
The difference between me and you is you’re playing at 1800 and when I’m playing ret hunter with my team we’re playing at 2600+ mmr.
A good team just isn’t going to get gibbed by ret hunter, game pace is simply too slow.
You will not kill a healer that is playing properly even with all maledicts commited properly until very deep points in dampening, and if you’re playing with a disc you won’t make it there you’ll try to all in people will just use defensive CDs like anyone with reasonable game knowledge would do and there’s your all in. Playing Rdruid ret hunter is superior because you have more opportunities to try and get a go and potentially win with wings which just won’t happen otherwise.
You have no frame of reference though realistically, it won’t happen it all on TR or even live with teams that actually know how to play. I agree Ret Hunter is amazing at crushing noobs though, but that’s really all it has going for them. It’s a great pub stomp comp and outside of just gibbing inexperienced teams it’s not very reliable because you still are wanting to play to win. You’re not going to beat any single meta comp whatsoever with ret hunter.
Dk never dies regardless if I take amz im losing huge damage. So ill be even further behind in the heal race and surv is almost all physical damage so its really only slowing the Ret/disc for a couple seconds.
Im not just saying this from a Dk perspective though, I agree Dh/Dk should beat cupid but any other melee comp will lose. Twd is a 1shot comp that insta loses to BoP. BoP is literally the most broken ability in the game against non-purge melee specs (most of them). Theres a reason Hpal runs double bop instead of sac.
Im 1800 rn yea but I barely que and don’t care to especially with LFG. The Cupid comp has not changed from S1 when i was 2700+ Mmr. I don’t need to be a R1 player to know its insane.
AMZ is for your healer lol
Rets damage is mostly holy, what are you talking about, and SVs only physical damage is mongoose bite whereas everything else is magic damage too
How are you going to insta lose to BoP as WWDK, you can just port and play really defensively with your goes and play to not lose on their all in
Hpals run double bop and ultimate sac what are you talking about lol
The comp might not have changed but the entire pacing of the game has, health pools are much higher whereas DPS is the exact same and many specs have gotten much tankier and offensive traits have been nerfed so it’s an entirely different experience
Also 1800 now is still around 900 rating lower than the highest players so it’s about the same exact gap as last season in all honesty. You haven’t played any high end games to realize how different the meta is and that if you’re getting gibbed by anything quickly nowadays you’re just playing wrong.