Blizzard, why would you create all this group content and then make it so people can’t group up in this literal hellscape?
Does anyone do the convocation of loss/grief/pain rares? no. Hunts? Good luck. five people will join and then leave because they don’t want to go back to oribos and then back to the maw.
The maw is full of group content that people just don’t do because forming groups is like pulling teeth. Who decided this was the way to go?
yep they should just make it like every other zone ever. Don’t care if people shard hop. Maw participation is super low (for obvious reasons) so trying to actually get the rep at this point is such a pain.
Is this the reason?
What are they shard hopping for? And how would it be worse than shard hopping Mechagon for mount rares?
Taxing and punishing the law abiding players is not a valid design solution to fight exploiters.
Not to mention Blizzard has said in Blizzconline interviews that they are re-working stygia and the maw itself, so they may as well lift the restrictions now because it’s going to change anyway.
Yes to all of that. Summoning the convocation rares only takes 3 ppl and you don’t need to be grouped. Solo’d Exos last night — I guess someone spawned it and then died?
Hunts are easily doable with others just around.
Earlier in SL days players were finding creative ways to farm stygia, and shard hopping was a part of that. Not to mention how much of it was done in beta.
This made sense for the first few weeks where every upgrade mattered a lot. Now there is a wide range of completion, all the world firsts are done. This is just bad quality of life, especially on lower pop servers / clusters.
Assuming anyone is around. Did the shadehounds earlier this week and got the hound to spawn on my own. Not a single player ran by when I was doing this.
Then that should’ve been fixed. Not allowing people to group for group quests in the finder was dumb.
In fact, if my guildies don’t find anyone to go with, they skip it and don’t care.
You don’t make an entire area full of elites, say it’s group content, pull sharding and then take off the word “group” on the quest text, thinking that fixes everything.
Honest question — are people doing Maw on low geared alts? Even Perdition Hold isn’t that bad if you’re smart about pulls, you can use the grappling hooks to move around instead of trying to kill everything in your path. You can use the invis pot from Ve’nari if you need to get deep inside the area.
It’s not the point if content is “technically soloable” It’s slow, it’s boring, it’s dangerous, you risk dying and not being able to get your stygia back, etc etc.
I am a 220 geared tank. I can solo this stuff fairly easily; but why can’t I just make a group and play with other human beings? In an MMO?
No one wants to waste time with this method. Especially when others trail mobs out of there and then trail them right to you.
It’s a waste of time and effort. People want to group up and take down the elites. But when they won’t let you… no one cares to do it solo.
Exactly this. 
Since day 1 I ask myself what’s up with this stupidity they did for the maw.
I literally don’t bother with group stuff in the maw specifically because of that and I know a lot of people don’t either.
Sure, but I’ve never formed a group inside the Maw, and yet I’ve successfully taken down elites or just PH trash clear along with other players… sometimes even the dirty Alliance. We’re all ungrouped, but things still die. And if the others are Horde, then I’m also getting that sweet x7 stygia or whatever.
Why is what I just described not doable for others? Why do you need to be grouped up? And before you say “I like to play with my friends” if that were the case you’d have no problem grouping up in Oribos with your friends with the intention of going into the Maw and doing stuff together.
That’s nice. Grats. It’s not how we want to do it. You were given two explanations of why people would like to group up within the Maw itself. But you keep defending the trash system. 
I’ve given alternatives so players can stop getting so frustrated with the game they need to log into the forums and talk/decompress over it. I’m not defending anything – I just make use of the cards I’m dealt instead of asking for something that Blizzard clearly doesn’t want to do.
I just wish those unwilling or unable to go to Oribos or Torghast to phase would not join groups. I look for groups from Ve’Nari’s area or just outside and if I form the group I put in the note what is needed to phase in.
I have tried summoning those unphased on my warlock, still phased. I don’t make the rules, I just play by them and I have hit the point my frustration is not with Blizzard, it is with idiots that don’t do even the bare minimum to phase after joining a group when they are not even interested in phasing.
Bottom line?
We literally just said twice:
“it’s not about it being doable. It’s about it being boring and bad.”
This is literally the question that demands an answer.
4months+ and you still cannot form a group for group content within the maw without being in different phases.
How this was every allowed to go live AT ALL is an extreme embarrassment to the professionalism of this company. Much less that it has not been remotely addressed or fixed at this stage of the expansions life other than a community manager suggesting to leave the zone entirely and then retun to the zone and then travel to the group content areas.
Blizzard sometimes creates these hypothetical scenarios as a reason to deny QOL things like this. It’s like a solution looking for a problem.
Remember when they said a Torghast without timers meant people would wait 10 minutes in between pulls so they could time warp for each pull? Except that extreme example never came to pass.
You find the maw easy because you’re on a highly mobile, self-healing tank class. it’s trivial on my druid too. The Maw is absolute hell on my mage alt. I run across the phasing problems constantly too. Guildies will offer to help but I always have to port back to Oribos and run back (on foot) and then the quest is gone.