Fix BM.... this is pathetic

Lmao, no. I’m really glad you’re not a WoW dev because this is probably the dumbest thing ever. Having two viable hero tree options enables more ways to play a spec which is better for players. If you go to other class forums you will notice that specs that only have one viable hero tree options complain about it.

Some hero trees excel in different scenarios. Pack Leader is significantly better than Dark Ranger in raid settings. Dark Ranger is normally better in m+ settings.

Dark Ranger adds absolutely zero bloat, it literally replaces Kill Shot.

Seems like you’re simply not good enough to play the spec and you also seem unable to grasp the mechanics/workings of the spec. I know its tragic for you that you were expecting to play a very simple spec only to get hit with some minor additional mechanics that renders you completely unable to play one of the simplest specs in the game, but if you can’t handle this then you should maybe try something like Ret Paladin or Frost DK. No need to scratch your head like a monkey buddy.

You refuse to adapt and get gud. You refuse to link your logs but honestly, we all know you do tank DPS, you literally said it here yourself. I can’t take you seriously and neither will the dev nor anyone else. Goodbye buddy, I hope you find an easy single-player game to excel at in the lowest difficulty setting.

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I know its frustrating, but we’re talking to fellow hunters; we should try to remain civil :frowning:

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I went Marksman main in hope of maining Dark ranger and how wrong we were

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Can’t be civil to the uncivilized.

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If the Jackal of Stormwind got flamed, and Cashmeowside too, of course anyone else is going to get it. If it happened to the best, it can happen to the rest; how is the rest better than the best not to get it? TSL still predominates the social scene.

I don’t really have a dog in this fight but DKR was busted up from the get-go after the gambit to get it broken OP fell flat, so it’s probably no wonder PL looked better for the take. I do agree with the OP that it all needs to be looked at again for 11.1 lest it’s not worth it.

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ive never been banned, in the 5 years, and thousands of arenas ive played/won while multiboxing. Hope everyone’s grind is going well! Happy Hunting!

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It’s pretty good for BM to be middle of the pack considering it is ridiculously easy to play compared to every other spec in the game.

You get rewarded for skill, BM, by far, requires the least of it

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Does it though….

I can one-button macro some other classes quite easily, especially the melee ones. For them it’s often just a matter of staying glued to the target. Many even automatically self heal. At least with BM you work a small amount to keep your 3 stack uptime and manage health bars with active abilities.

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I agree with you that some of them are not complex. But BM heal passively just doing your rotation ( the leech from predator’s thirst ) and melee get one shot if by sticking to the Target they get in boss cleave.

BM has barbed shot and kill command to press and you can do that while moving,

The floor to do very good dps is very low.

Now, don’t think I am not saying that a great BM is complex. Maximizing traps, tranq, misdirect, binding shot, etc… is great when you have a great BM, but the floor is really low

I’m not saying BM is hard. All I’m saying is that the floor is comparatively low for a lot of specs.

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I’m not sure how others are swapping between BR and PL while doing mythic+ or raids because their build is different. Since the beginning I am under the impression that DR favours haste while PL favours mastery. I play DR because I love the reactive gameplay of DR and so I’ve built as much haste as I can and my numbers are good for the +11s I am doing. PL helped me out a lot with world content because the gameplay is familiar and comfortable.

Class fantasy on the other hand, it’s really how you make of it. You can even make Sentinel fit if you wanted to. It’s really about your imagination and how well you can associate your class with it. Point is, if you don’t see your character as a certain hero spec, don’t but don’t speak for everyone else and claim that only yours is the correct way. Yuck on someone else’s yum.

In terms of gameplay, I like DR. Like someone said before, the only difference in buttons is that they replaced KillShot with BlackArrow but the importance of gameplay switched from KillCommand to BA procs. That’s it. If I have any complain, it would be that keeping BarbShot stacks should rely less on rng.

Visually, hunters have the worst design team ever. Yes you can make an argument about DR but personally, it’s not much to look at…more like, not enough to look at. MM on the other hand is just…what is MM? Like I’m having trouble visualizing the spec: is it guns or is it bows, why are their abilities both when they’re using only one weapon at a time?

To me, BM is on a good direction at the moment. The devs (imo) should focus on the reactive gameplay that DR has and make the procs more exciting and impactful (especially visually). I really like the changes to MurderofCrows and think more of our abilities should go the same way.

Anyways, I am enjoying the class at the moment and relieved to not seen the nerf bat in a while. Hope it keeps up.

And how efficient will that be ?

How efficient? Depends on the class/spec. For example Fury warrior has been trivial to one button macro and do well in both single target and AE for years at this point.

Please tell me which class is a one button macro. I’m looking to up my game.

Although, I think you’re telling lies. BM is the easiest class in the game with zero downtime. I bet half of the BM hunters would jump ship if there’s such a class, including you.

But, on the other hand, maybe not because most hunter players are not that great and will just die to fire if they play classes that can’t do their rotation while back pedaling away. :sweat_smile:

I mean, looking at apl i don’t see how 1 button macro can be remotely efficient (unless it’s ± breaking ToS) or it’s not very efficient.

But it also depends on content i guess.

Well wotlk ret with mwheel+ macro was fairly close, but we’re a bit past those days.

What a wierd thing to say. Tons of players play multiple characters.

I have leveled each class. Many I leveled during legion because I wanted a lot of mage tower artifact appearances. Hunter, Warrior, Rogue, Paly I’ve had since Vanilla. A lot of people don’t tie themselves to one char or spec. I spend most time these days on my DH and my Evoker actually. I’ve just been running delves on my hunter lately.

I’m sorry if you can’t figure out how to run a macro. Prot war like you have there is pretty easy also by the way, not looking forward to the pending nerf though.

This is both idiotically stupid and completely untrue.

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Sigh…… not even at home at my computer, just no effort boredom while I wait on bureaucracy.

Bloodthirst gives you a 3 gcd window to rotate. Thunderclap/whirlwind(last two expansions) have a short cooldown. Raging blow is the same and constantly resets anyway. All three have cooldowns sped up by haste. It’s an easy castsequence to spin. Rampage, interupt, execute can be added with tags like [ALT]. Things like avatar and odyn’s fury are off the GCD so can be added to the bottom with additional cast tags. Run mountain thane and cheese your way through any content in the game.

Will you be the best warrior ever doing something like that… nope, not even close. Somebody autopiloting BM isn’t going to be the best ever either. Still, you’d be surprised at just how large the population you outperform is though. As said earlier, the floor is quite low.

Let’s summarize:

To prove their point, proceeds to identify a half dozen buttons you need in addition to bloodthirst and raging blow… The hunter forums never cease to amaze…

You’re confusing abilities with buttons. In this game it’s possible to put a lot of abilities into a macro and then assign that macro to a button.

These macros can be very simple or rather involved. Type ‘/macro’ in game to begin your journey.