Caster mistweaver is unique because it implements one of the baseline abilities in our kit: soothing mist, which is used in conjunction with other healing abilities for instant casts (none of the other healer classes have this function)
Fistweavers don’t even need soothing mist on there hot bars because it’s better to hard cast Vivify’s due to gcd’s.
Only caster mistweavers consistently use channeled heals like soothing mist to heal (especially with jade serpent statue & unison)
Yea thats like a small uniqueness, but in pvp it doesnt matter if those are instant because a kick is a kick is a kick. Nothing special about caster mwer if you ask me.
Dont try to reason with caster mistweaver players. Its like talking to a brick wall.
I personally agree and they should stop trying to have split playstyle directions on certain specs, frost dk DW vs 2h is another that comes to mind.
If they enjoy the mechanics of soothing mist so much fine, move that to a new spec or another healer, Fistweaving is the most unique healing style amongst all healers, just embrace it and commit to it so it can be the best version of itself.
As a compromise I’d make a second healing spec for monk in a similar style of disc vs holy.
If they make a 2nd healing spec for monk just for caster MW then i’d agree to your compromise.
Nothing special about fistweavers either by that logic, I have a max geared holy paladin and they play VERY similar to a fistweaver.
Also, I exclusively run PvE content idk how the PvP side of things goes.
FW is not PvP viable at all so I’m not sure why you are bringing this up.
Unless you routinely run into melee trains to heal, in which case your enemy thanks you.
So FW gets to be disc? Which means they get a niche of bring 1 to raid and they get to suck at everything else?
My dude, there are multiple 3000+ FWs in SS.
Bank is actually around 3200+ atm. Decent in 2s & SS. Mystical has been playing around w/ it too.
Don’t see it going anywhere in RBGs, since MW is still a bit squishy. Improvements to dematerialize might finish the spec / playstyle off for RBGs (PVP in general).
Yeah this is the reality. They are trying to jam two specs into one talent tree. Just choose and stick with it.
I would actually support having even more specs in one talent tree. I want for warrior SMF to not be terrible, and for dk MotFW to be comparable to breath build, and I’d love if they did something similar for enhancement shaman. It would be nice to have multiple playstyles for every spec.
Dual roles in a spec might even be nice but that definitely is far… far less likely to ever happen. The non-existence of gladiator at all and the existence of both feral and guardian prove that one.
Can someone remind me what monk healers are called on their talent tree?
“F-Tier”
I am just kidding, but that idea made me laugh 
your logs say you are healing Heroic for:
Eranog 44k 79% parse
Terros 56k 70% parse
Council 61k 88% parse
Sennarth 46k 81% parse
Dathea 42k 82% parse
Kurog 61k 65% parse
Broodkeeper 54k 67% parse
Ras - no kill
I wouldnt really promote a spec that is pulling such subpar numbers. I would also recommend finding a fistweaver that actually knows how to fistweave and learning from them.
Edit: also, your talents are purely mistweaver… so why are you pushing for Fistweaver?
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/moon-guard/redweave#difficulty=4
honestly if they split the spec, caster mw should turn into a wise mari style dps a la shadow priest where all your healing abilities are corrupted dmg abilities instead.
is half the raid afk in the fire?
dunno, but 44k is low
There isnt even any real dmg going out on H Eranog. You shouldnt even be breaking 40k on that fight unless people are screwing up or youre running -1 heal for a dps.
mmm, i can tell you you can solo heal it and pull 70-80k ez
also.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/31#boss=2587&difficulty=4&metric=hps
Literally 140k is #1 healing, sure maybe people are standing in stuff but its enough for you to get it, your parse should be higher. Def above 40k… hell my undergeared dragon pulls 65k
Monks in general on heroic.
124k
on a parse run, in a normal H Eranog where people are doing mechanics you simply arent taking that much dmg. In my last run on eranog people were legit standing in fire even and 40k was top healing.
Reversion prevoker is stupid powerful in raids with just like 30 casts. You can legit watch tv while top parsing at 390ilvl on a prevoker.
but its a valid thing, its also #4 as a MISTWEAVER not a fistweaver.
Parses are parses at the end of the day, if you are pulling a 40parse trying to dictate what other people are playing in the spec when you yourself are not even playing the spec, you are to be ignored right? Why listen to someone who struggles to play the class as a basic mistweaver?