Fistweaving SHOULD BE MANDATORY

Fistweaving SHOULD :clap: BE :clap: MANDATORY :clap:

Blizzard needs to stop wasting 50% of MW talent space on “caster” mistweaving. Its clearly not supposed to be the viable option as mistweaver is intended to deal damage and heal at the same time in melee
(directly from Blizzards interviews before MoP release)!!

Mistweaver “casters” are hampering true monks from enjoying the entirety of the spec, i know its harsh but there are like 4 other caster healers that do the same things as “caster” mistweaver. Meanwhile fistweaving is ACTUALLY UNIQUE.

Stop pushing this boring, suboptimal playstyle on true mistweavers who want the talents dedicated to fistweaving. There is no need to appease the “caster” crowd. Lets focus on the fistweaving.

Players think that just because mistweaer is unpopular that it needs to be changed, people dont play monk because they dont vibe with the class fantasy and even then fewer people play healers.

STOP TRYING TO REMOVE THE UNIQUENESS OF THE CLASS i dont want WoW to end up like FFXIV where every healer plays the same. Its ok to have unique playstyles, if u dont like fistweaving YOU HAVE OTHER OPTIONS FOR HEALS meanwhile there is NO REPLACEMENT FOR FISTWEAVING

FISTWEAVING IS THE ONLY WAY

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Maybe this has only been my experience but every time I get a Monk healer that purely fistweaves, the healing is very sub-par compared to every other class and even the caster only MW’s that I have had. Way too many close calls and deaths every time I play with a FW Monk as my healer. Just my 2 cents.

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We were casters.

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While fistweaving is a great thing, being a caster fits aswell perfectly well in the monks philosophy.
Both elements are meant to be there and there are players enjoying one or the other more. Some enjoy both playstyles.
Both should be made viable - as “simple” as that.

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how? Fistweaving HPS is very good, that just sounds like a skill issue, what kind of HPS numbers are they pulling?

Hot take: don’t care what they decide to go with, fistweaving or caster, but you gotta pick one. It’s a chore dancing around useless talents that are intended for one build whilst trying to build yours.

No other spec in the game has this much of an identity crisis.

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Silly post. Nobody cares that you prefer Vanilla over Chocolate, but forbidding Chocolate to be served is dum, d u m dumb. Talents can easily accomodate both playstyles (for any talented game designer), and having access to both is good for the class and the playerbase.

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Good talent tree design allows for multiple different playstyles.

This Post is like asking Blizzard to take away all of the Lightning talents from the Elemental Shaman talent tree because they’d rather have the tree overloaded with a bunch of Lava Burst/fire talents.

Choice is good. Healthy even.

But yet, the monk trees could use some work. Especially the class tree.

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Higher than 7% parses I’m sure

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Absolutely agree.
Compare all capstones from all classes. Monks are lacking nice benefits.
Chi Burst and the even worse choice are not viable and the talent Eye of the Tiger is a joke… ~0,3k hps + dps for oneself isn’t feeling rewarding at all.

I believe it was around the 20-25k HPS.

yeah thats really embarassing, i would suggest finding someone who actually knows how to fistweave

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Fistweaving can be a lot better than that.
I still think both builds should be part of the game. Fistweaving is pretty potent at healing raids and being mana efficient but it rather lacks bursting (with 3 mobs and Chi-Ji it is very strong but with only one enemy this build lacks a burst).
The caster-build can burst out healing (especially if focusing one ally) any time while burning through mana. When using bursts the mana usage is more efficient.

Both builds need some rework, especially the class tree. But I believe they can make a great fistweaver with strong burst healing or a caster with better dps possibilities.
For example by changing the choice-nodes, being able to mix things better.

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I am not sure how FistWeaving is more HPS? Like a big heal upfront? Plus the heals are dumb. It would heal the 90% person vs someone that is dying. I prefer a mix since FistWeaving is mostly maintenance instead of “oh crap everyone got cleaved and they next booty clapper 9000 is coming… i need a big heal now!”

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Why not let them have options lol

I get this is a half troll half serious post, but fr. What’s the problem with options.

You aren’t not allowed to fistweave just because others want to cast

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Im actually serious. I really want more fistweaving talents instead of wasting slots on casting

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I wished we could do both without having to respec all the time…

Maybe I’m misinterpreting you… what talents do you feel are wasted on casting for a fistweaver build?

Burst is pretty well handled by Sheilun’s Gift now, so fistweaving has pretty good versatility with the right build.

Yes, Sheilun’s Gift is a great addition. But if it’s not done with one big heal, Sheilun’s isn’t ready for being used twice in a row.