This being moved to the talent tree was a nerf to the casting build.
If you mean the return on bok mana return or increase cost on rsk/tp then yes, just flat regen on mana is uncalled for
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i agree with you. ppl don’t know fistweaver’s weaknesses until they play it.
it’s a melee healer. meaning it’s so vulnerable to cc. not just that, it’s easily kiteable. especially with a lock+mage that has perma 60-70% slows and roots that mw will never heal if they know how to kite and do big dmg nonstop
Whether they’re OP or not is irrelevant, no healer should last 10 minutes without going OOM. Simple as that.
None of those are healers. Is MW the only healer that can’t press it’s defensive CD’s while stunned?
Playing others after MW was so weird.
FW is still broken and should never be playable in PvP and tank tier, though
Its strengths are numerous
Cc that breaks because almost all damage profiles these days is cleave so DPS unintentionally break CC many times on them.
Not as easy as it should be but I agree it has a weakness if it’s chasing a hunter or a mage while getting blasted.
They have a freedom you know and locks aren’t that mobile plus they have pets to cleave
Oh look he renoved one slow/root, reapply.
Man you’re clueless on what you’re arguing for
I was talking about Chi Ji. That’s immunity
Chi ji doesn’t affect roots
given that resto druids were able to be 2v2 gods for 10+ years, i dont see them being strong in 2v2 as a problem. game is balanced around 3’s per blizzard. just snare them, problem solved. if they’re not touching you, they’re not healing.
Locks are that mobile, lmfao.
Tbh I don’t even care about the 55 second cocoon, since I don’t even take that version. I’d rather someone be unkillable with cocoon rather than have a quick cooldown on it.
It isn’t even an insta cast though. It is on a 30 second cd, but you make it sound like it’s insta all the time, when you still have to channel soothing mist, then cast it, which is still two global’s worth of casting that is still very much so interruptable. Caster enveloping mist is stronger than fistweaving enveloping as well, which is why it’s important to make distinctions between the two iterations of the builds.
Pertaining to fistweaving, sure, nerf their mana. Pertaining to castweaver, if you had your way they’d nerf our strongest cooldown, nerf our strongest output hot, and nerf our mana, abruptly killing the class.
There’s a nuance to balance that you don’t seem to grasp all that well. Probably about as nuanced as the PvP devs letting ret go out the way it did tbh.
Most can, I don’t know if it’s all or not though.
I mean rdruid has only barkskin in stuns, I think revival during stuns and port are a lot more valuable over that really
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I remember back in the day when a resto druid would use bark skin and it meant something
Port definitely if it’s placed right. Restoral eats dampening, though the recent buff to it definitely helps on that front. That is a bit surprising that barkskin hasn’t been buffed up a bit more with the damage the way it is.
Paladin only has divine protection, barkskin is fine.
Well it’s a fistweaver crutch
Two charges every 30 seconds is pretty huge
I feel like having played every healer this season extensively I have a bit of merit
Has your mw experience been fw build? Go a head and go caster spec and see how well you do, bonus points if you record it and post
Your continuous bad takes makes me question if that does give you merit or not tbh.
I don’t play fw build.I’ve played it in battlegrounds but that was near the start of the season when people said it wasn’t good.
I do have a hybrid build I still use in battlegrounds but that’s it.
Tomorrow, when Fistweavers no longer have pocket Ret paladins to dispel every CC, they go back to Memeville.