FoF sucks. Feels lame to press compared to the rest of the buttons. Buffed SCK does the same damage in a third of the time. I’m literally cancelling FoF in PVP for more damage. It doesn’t make sense that even with One vs. Many, the damage of FoF is balls AND it contributing to Flurry Strikes faster is meaningless because the bottleneck of FS activation is almost always the energy threshold.
My proposition: Make it better. Give me some fist of the north star action. I saw in the PTR that jadefire stomp triggers at the end of FoF. Lame. Make FoF have a chance to proc flurry strikes at full power or something. That would feel pretty cool imo.
FoF right now feels very slow and awkward compared to how fast the spec feels in almost any situation.
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I only use the full FoF duration to get stacks of jade ignition, otherwise I feel like I am wasting my time. It used to feel so good to see those huge FoF crits. We are beyblades now it seems.
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I find it much better in stacked groups. But yes, i still often cancel it to get a Punch off to get the dance buff.
I think the stacks for Jade Fire Ignition should either be less for the same amount of buff, as well as getting stacks to buff FoF should be easier.
When we get more haste on gear, it may become better, dealing more damage equal to haste %
You are all losing damage by clipping FoF early. Momentum Boost provides a buff when you complete the channel that is more than enough to merit letting it finish.
A Dance of Chi Ji buffed SCk does do more damage, but with DoCJ having 2 stacks and no cost, you don’t lose anything by using FoF first.
The math absolutely does not support canceling FoF.
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A lot of folks don’t realize how prioritization works, and shadow priests suffer the most
From this, but all classes do.
People think “why would I finish this FoF, I have a DOCJ proc!!” Without realizing that said proc will still be there once FoF ends.
While I agree FoF could use a bit more flash, (I really miss the old MoP SFX for it) don’t cancel it early. Blizz literally put in a new talent to heavily incentivize not cancelling it early with Momentum Boost. Hell, even in PvP, keep it rolling. You might just bait a cc to cancel it.
If we’re talking about improvements that could be made to FoF, I’ve got a few. Bring back OPS. Make FoF channel faster when SEF is active or revert the nerf to Invoker’s Delight. Give FoF or RSK a second charge.
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Is it really you?
But thank you, i will let FoF finish. I thought the boost was given on cast and not finish, never really payed much attention to it
FoF is literally one of your top damage dealers in meters lol. People really thinking clipping it early is good lmao.
I’m new to monk but I kinda agree. It’s not a bad ability and deals good damage, but everything else is so fast that having to channel that looong FoF just feels like I’m doing something wrong. It’s like i’m being interrupted mid rotation by external forces, exception is that YOU are the external force.
I assume people still intentionally clip it in PVP for more burst though. Anyone doing PvP atm know?
That’s actually what I meant to say in my OP LOL. I wouldn’t clip it in PVE but cancelling it for Strike->Sweep → FoF cancel into RSK → WDP → SCK is the only burst I can fit into sweep usually. I’ll still hold FoF max duration if some warrior is on me though for the parry
The only time FoF is canceled for me is if I have to roll to dodge, or the packs decided to haul tail after the DH decided 20 mobs wasn’t enough and leapt away. Outside of PvP I see no reason to cancel FoF for any reason. It’s always in the top of my overall