First Bellular now Asmon

People like that lack the self-awareness to realize how they’re presenting themselves.

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I can’t name three good thing s he’s done. The streams literally at 90% complaining.

Complaining against things casuals (majority of the playerbase) liked.

What I can say is the constant campaigning against aspects oft eh game that made it fun for casual has ruined the game. Your game population is dieing not becuase elitists and high end players are leaving…. It’s because casuals dipped out.

Immediately took the position of the victim. Complete with what-aboutisms and toxicity directed to the GM.

I couldn’t be a GM. I’d have said, “you gave me all the evidence I need! You won’t be banned… but you’ll be confined to this boring cell for two days!”

I’m already drunk with power and I’m not even a GM. XD

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  1. Deciding to make a non-RP guild on an RP server causing harassment towards roleplayers from people that aren’t from the server

  2. He made fun of people dying in natural disasters

  3. Harassment against players that buy stuff from the store, encourages his followers to spit on and harass people that choose to buy things from the in-game store.

  4. Known for ninja looting, and doing things that are degenerative and not supportive to the community. One comes to mind where he admitted to kicking players from pugs when loot was about to come up to try and get a higher chance at getting mounts.

The one piece glamour sells it for me.

So you haven’t watched him at all and you’re just talking straight out of your rear because of secondhand information. Got it.

Such blind disdain for a person you know absolutely nothing about is unhealthy, try correcting that.

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Uh oh I hit a nerve with a asmon and bellyfat fanboy haha

Fact is they are toxic and dirt and I’m glad they’ve left.

Outed, lol.

I can see why Asmon is an acquired taste or is just not for everybody. But I never knew who he was until I saw people talking trash about him on the forums, so I checked him out myself and he isn’t that bad. People that bad mouth him don’t realize that when they do so, it’s free advertisement. Which is the funniest thing about it.

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Both games have an end game grind but what’s nice about 14 is you don’t feel forced to do it. In 14 you can grind and work for an artifact weapon which is essentially a legendary. It’s very grindy and they typically create these zones where you need to gain rep in etc etc…the current zone is called Bozja…I hate bozja and don’t do any of it because you can get an equivalent or better weapon from other content. Wow doesn’t give you an option.

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I just like how whenever you challenge them, they can’t even list off the things he’s done that makes him so bad besides blanket statements like ‘elitism’ or whatever.

Seems you missed someone answering you (wasn’t me).

  1. Deciding to make a non-RP guild on an RP server causing harassment towards roleplayers from people that aren’t from the server
  2. He made fun of people dying in natural disasters
  3. Harassment against players that buy stuff from the store, encourages his followers to spit on and harass people that choose to buy things from the in-game store.
  4. Known for ninja looting, and doing things that are degenerative and not supportive to the community. One comes to mind where he admitted to kicking players from pugs when loot was about to come up to try and get a higher chance at getting mounts.

I’d also add his arrogant persona encourages his toxic fanbase. Even if he himself isn’t directly doing things, his acceptance and approval of individuals who does it in his name makes him just as culpable nonetheless. Kind of like how you can’t rile up a voter base and basically spell out to cause something like say…an insurrection or something and then act all innocent and try and claim you had no part in it.

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With WoW, you could have gear progression either from these:

Mythic+
Raid
PvP

And if you do all three, you would be on top of the food chain.

Progression as SOLO will just give you basic gear. You have to group up on WoW to get gear progression.

If you want vendor gear, it will open up on 9.1. But I dont think it would be a BiS. It’s mostly a catchup gear especially when you are left behind.

Sorry, you have to be competitive on WoW. And that’s what makes it a better game than FF14.

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I’m talking about the legendary. I’m just saying that most people who invest time into wow are going to want the legendary whereas in 14 if you want the artifact its entirely optional. I like running content for new gear, I don’t like running boreghast and feeling forced to do it otherwise my dps suffers and im not contributing as much as my group members.

Clearly you’ve never played the game and I never said ff14 was better I’m just stating differences.

You are not really being pushed that much with Torghast. You are only playing a low geared toon. You only need ilevel 190 or 210 legendary. That is just like 2 to 3 weeks of playing low-layer Torghast and you dont need to return to it afterwards. The worst is when people who are just doing lowbie stuffs is trying to get legendaries on his army of alts who’s not going to do any of the content. And these alts are getting all ilevel 235 legendaries which are very expensive. LOL. What a waste.

But if you are competitive who wants to be KSM, AoTC or PvP Combatant, you would need to up your game to highest layers of Torghast which is actually so easy becoz of nerfs. Get ilevel 190/210 legendary first and start climbing your way up while you work on your weekly Torghast. Torghast is like 2 runs per WEEK. That is more than enough for Casual competitive gameplay.

Source pls.

/spitting on people who buy stuff from the store isn’t really a big deal, unless your skin is paper-thin. Especially when you consider the negative impact the store has on the game.

He never encouraged harassment against RPers, and has gone on record saying he doesn’t really have a problem with RP.

And?

No, Taliesin died on this hill and it backfired. Asmon is not responsible for the actions of his fanbase.

I mean it isn’t my comment so I’m not going to do the legwork. You just seemed to miss it while claiming nobody had a legitimate beef with him.

You can claim though he isn’t culpable but that doesn’t make it fact. Actual laws though prove otherwise. You can be held liable for things you say that cause people to act or react in a way they otherwise had no reason to react in.

If you don’t believe me, go try and cause a panic and get someone trampled and see how it ends up for you.

Well, if you’re going to speak on someone else’s behalf, but refuse the responsibility of doing so, I don’t see why I should humor a proper discussion.

Except the law would require he actually encourage or incite them before he be held responsible. So unless you can find me a clip of him encouraging the harassment of RPers, you have nothing.

Edit: Adding on, do you honestly think /spitting on someone is actionable? Unless you spam it, having a group of people /spit on someone and go about their day isn’t going to get someone banned, either.

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Complaining about the store is majorly just a wow thing, the only thing to really complain about is wow tokens otherwise the things on the store is just cosmetic. It’s pathetic to harass people for buying cosmetics on an in-game store. Someone shouldn’t be encouraging there followers to harass people who buy stuff with their own money either way. (And these things are usually bought through 6 month subs and can be bought without spending a dime via buying tokens with gold.)

I didn’t say he encouraged harassment against RPers, however his choice of server for the project 60 events hold him accountable for the major amount of harassment and griefing that occurred towards many roleplayers due to him not picking a proper server to do it on.

This is something that is degenerative to the game, it’s also hilarious that you sanction spitting on people that buy stuff from the store because you believe buying things from the store is degenerative but are still alright with ninja looting.

I didn’t speak for anyone. I simply copied and pasted what they said giving you the benefit of the doubt that you missed their response to you.

Interesting though that you think someone saying something akin to “I detest these kinds of people and think it is perfectly reasonable that this bad thing should happen” isn’t inciting and inflammatory to those you know are a captive audience of you who you know will go through any lengths to please you.

Funny enough we’re gonna be finding out soon enough whether or not that is the case or not.

I do think encouraging people to spit on others for a very trite reason is uncouth.

(I used trite and uncouth in the same sentence and can check them off my word of the day list)

Asmon isn’t as bad as people say he is but he isn’t infallible. Everyone has their moments. The difference between Asmon and say, someone like me, is that his moments are recorded for all to see and mine are not.