Walked into PTR with zero experience, read the dungeon journal and cleared 7/7 10m heroic within 3.5 hours.
Firelands should not be this easy, please release pre-nerf Firelands.
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well yea, 10m is a joke regardless of prenerf or not
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From what i hear 10m is extremely easy.
silence, ill take my free 10m bosses tyvm.
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The problem is even 25man heroic is too easy with current tuning.
I mean the majority of people wont kill Rag as is, let alone pre nerf.
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Depends on which boss, certain bosses are substantially easier in 25m.
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I assume Rag in his weakest state is still harder than any t11 boss
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10m is the meme version lol.
Infact you would do 10m heroic rag back in the day because it was easier to deal with geyser.
Even tho geyser on ptr is gone.
You assume wrong. Current tuning has rag wayyyy easier than the likes of Sinestra, Council or Nef in Heroic imo.
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I think its def harder than those bosses.
Do you think there is a nerfed version on the PTR in order to get the data on boss kills?
It depends on the state you did those bosses in, in 346 gear nefarian is pretty damn hard, but in 365 he isn’t really, if rag went live right now he’d be the hardest boss most people have encountered in cata because most of the community took a long time to see nef or sinestra and by the time they did, the gear was already into the 360s, they won’t get roadblocked by the other t12 bosses like they did in t11
Same thing happened with HLK, most of his difficulty dissolved before most guilds saw him because they got owned by putricide or sindragosa and ended up farming 270 ilevel off the previous boss pinatas like rotface, marrowgar etc
10man should get buffed in difficulty, it’s clearly at least twice as easy as 25 is.
Checks out tbh.
The raid without a doubt should release in the state it was after the world first was achieved, it needed tuning in order for the 1st kill to happen, we should not be getting a last patch of xpac tuned firelands especially with it being so fondly remembered.
Yes. The nerfs were done in a series of hotfixes during Firelands progression. All bosses got a 15% to 25% health and damage reduction in both Normal and Heroic difficulties, less than 3 months after Firelands went live.
The original blog post of the big hotfix nerfs is still up.
I mean just cause its tuned for the next phase yes, but mechanically/ amount of pulls/time spent in firelands v t11 needed to clear for the majority is going to be substantially less imo. but warcraft logs will post the wipefest to confirm than so i can be wrong but most other guilds ive talked to/peeps in gdkp felt the same way.
It will be less most likely.
Raids will def struggle with current rag even if he doesnt have the Geyser mechanic.
Was T11 post nerf as well? I thought this was just always going to be the case with Cataclysm Classic