I’m reading the guide wowhead for fire mage rotation and I can’t see where phoenix flames fits in. Any help would be appreciated.
Haven’t gotten 4 set yet but basically you download 20 weakauras, send off a PF at the beginning of combust, and wait for the next patch
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Wowheads fire mage guide is pretty lazy I don’t think it’s been updated since DF prepatch tbh. Go to Mage-hub or join the mage discord for better info. You cast PF along with your precast Pyroblast to immediately apply Charring Embers and for the most part only cast it to maintain the debuff. When you get the charges of super-PF I typically will use them immediately in place of fire blast, as long as doing so won’t let master of flame drop off. So I usually need to use a fire blast in-between the two super PFs
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People have their own resources that they swear by. For me it’s Icy-Veins.
Icy-Veins does give you details on Pheonix Flame usage.
You may be looking at the section before acquiring the tier set, which uses the spell “From the Ashes” which buffs you mastery per charge off CD so you actually didn’t really cast it. But you’ll swap to Alextraza’s Fury with the tier set.
And going into 10.1.5 From the Ashes is changing to buffing your mastery while PF is on CD.
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Thank you all. I’ll check out those places. I started leveling my mage with the announced removal of ROP and found I still love it. I’m a caster at heart. Anyways, frost seems simplistic but fire and arcane seemed too complex. I’m hoping to find a caster somewhere in the middle.
I usually play shadow priest, but the rework has made it a bit simplistic and I hate all my aoe being tied up in shadow crash.
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I think you’ll enjoy where Arcane and Fire are at currently on the PTR. I’ve also levelled my Mage in anticipation of 10.1.5
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So many people have dusted off their mages for 10.1.5, there is excitement in the air for sure. I am looking forward to no longer being the only mage in a raid, lol.
As far as guides go though, it’s been a very mixed bag since DF and the revamp of the talent trees. I’ve been an Arcane Mage main since before it was a proper spec back in Vanilla and I would never consider playing the way the current guides suggest. Instead, I have been using my own build for the entire expansion and plan to continue that trend in 10.1.5 and beyond. It may not be optimal DPS (and it isn’t, not by a long shot) but it’s fun to play and that’s far more important to me.
As things are right now there are far too many dead talent either because they are lot tuned properly or are otherwise impossible to take due to pathing and/or insufficient points. At the same time the rotations themselves have become incredibly bloated and convoluted. 10.1.5 will go a ways towards alleviating that somewhat but from what I have seen on the PTRs so far it doesn’t go far enough. If you want to put it on spectrum it’s better than the Shadow rework but worse than the Retribution one.
It all goes back to the shift from talent tiers to trees. It was completely botched and treated very much as an afterthought even for Evokers, the signature new class (though that has been more or less ironed out now). It will likely take many patch cycles and probably years for things to normalize across the board for all classes and specs. It will be a huge undertaking happening on parallel tracks with the rest of the development process for a long time to come.
Part of me wants to say that he’s no longer playing the class - been primary evoker all DF
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https://www.mage-hub.com/fire seems to be the most consistent guide lately. Gingi released kind of gloss over vid just acouple weeks ago. Hopefulx is someone you could watch on twitch. He typically plays fire in keys and sometimes on mythic farm if its not holding back the raid.
I’m guessing when 10.1.5 launches there will be plenty of guides on youtube. It’s just been relatively (butt) all xp so none of the usual fire content creators have really been making guides.
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Can’t say I blame him. I love playing on my Devoker. It plays so smoothly it’s jarring going back to Mage. And they’ve got better looking skills to boot.
Not really saying i disagree… just more pointing out that’s probably why the guide hasnt been updated and seems “lazy” as was said above is all.
Believe me, if I wasnt so OCD about some things on my mage, I would have jumped ship already too - but if I start up a new class or change to one of my alts - then I have to do all the reps again (old and new) and I’m not doing that (dont possess the time anymore).
Same, I am a creature of habit and I’ve been a mage for far too long to change now. And yeah no time anymore. WoW has become too much of a grind fest. Not enough hours in the week to seriously play more than 1 character if you’ve got anything else going on in life, lol. And DF has actually been a lot more alt friendly than previous expansions.
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Agreed, but their tmog and range just horribly suck. Those things are oddly important to me.
Also, portals are amazing.
Edit: also mage survivability vs devoker rules.
I never understood the range limitation, tbh. Like what’s the reason behind it? Just because? Evokers are casters, nothing about their toolkit is substantially different from any other caster class to necessitate the shorter range. I guess the only thing I can think of is that most of their spells are breath attacks and it sort of makes sense that breath doesn’t carry 40 yards? But I mean come on, we’re talking about magic flying geckos here, lol!