Today, Warlocks finally get something to discuss.
Datamined talents. I believe Warrior got some good Datamining action last week and now this week is their tree. So possibly next week for us.
Some key things:
We’re taking the Necrolord Covenant spell. (I was bored to death with NF, so I’ll take it)
Lots of Drain Life buffs.
Inquisitor’s Gaze - Sounds crazy?
Tormented Soul - AOE Stuff
Lots of “Filling Soul Shard” mechanics.
Also, in the potential “general” side, I noticed this:
Fel and Steel Felstorm and Dreadbite deal 20% additional damage.
Edit: This has now been moved to the Demo section.
Feel like this should be a Demo talent, unless Aff/Destro also gets Dreadstalkers?
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This stuff sounds cool. Still worried that Warlock trees aren’t released yet. The only classes left are 2 classes that never even had a talent tree… and then Warlock.
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some of it sounds very interesting . but no meta/10
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it would seem like they intend to change how we gain and use soul shards
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idk about you but im concerned.
Drain life is nerfed…
These passives/ conduits in DF are way weaker form what they are live.
Drain life 30 percent faster channeled and healed faster vs 100 percent both on SL.
Accrued Vitality is 15% DF vs 80 percent on SL.
Desperate power 15% more healing when less than 50% percent hp? Big deal, drain life already heals 500% of the dmg… 15% won’t be a big difference.
Feels like AFF so far lost more defense than anything.
I see they keep pushing the dumb nightfall talent on AFF for some reason.
Personally, not happy seeing decimating bolt return – might be pushed into AFF’s gameplay style like they are doing right now.
Only interesting things to look forward for is Pandemic Invocation and Tormented soul. But if we still keep Malefic rupture, a lot of these tools will be tweaked because of MR again.
IDK not too excited yet…
I’m more concerned and worried than anything else. Feels like they are disconnected from the spec still, just like Shadow spec in Priest talent trees. But I guess I gotta wait for the full talent system before i can really complain or rather say anything at all.
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Im very concerned about felguard focused talents.
The one thing i do NOT want is to be pigeon holed into exclusively using the felguard as demo for the 8th expansion in a row. Its worn its welcome by now and its creatively lazy when there are so many unused demon variants…
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If demonic consumption shows up in the demo tree or maelfic rupture isnt removed for affliction’s base kit i have 0 hopes for this class in DF to be fun.
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My thoughts and concerns aswell as a Demonology Main… I’d love some sort of iteration of Metamorphosis for Demo… please Blizzard.
It also seems they double downing on Felguard being the primary pet for Demo with so far no talent or words of glyphs for other variations… I’m not opposed too but would love a little variety. Don’t get me wrong, I love my Wrathguard Glyph but come on, a little variety doesn’t hurt.
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I like new felguard talent and in some tooltips it has Fel Lord instead of felguard, hope we’ll see new pet options 
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Right, but to achieve that in SL you need to use a Legendary, which is awful in PVE.
This is baseline, which is nice.
But I do agree that 100% faster actually feels powerful. 30% faster is something that will just feel standard after you’ve used it 3-4 times.
And the general concerns about weaker versions of what we have in SL is shared across the board, so I’m not too concerned. All in the same boat.
Agreed on your Nightfall comments. I’m also not a fan. Also, based of the Nightfall tooltip, appears we have Shadow Bolt and can replace it with Drain Soul. I wish they’d just baseline Drain Soul.
I’m also excited for the inquisitors eyes. I think it’ll add a lot of visual flavor to a spec that is visually lacking.
A lot of the concerns will come down to the structure of the tree. For example… imagine if you have to choose between UA and Haunt? Or if you have to pump a lot of points into buffing Drain Life just to get some core utility?
But honestly I’m pretty happy with the datamining. For a small glimpse at what is to come, I’m hopeful.
I agree. When I read through the Demo changes I got BM vibes.
I don’t want Demo to turn into a spec where 60% of the damage comes from your Fel Guard.
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The Warlock talents data mined just make me regret switching my main to a Warlock … fml.
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exactly why I am waiting for the trees to see what’s really going on.
in PVP aspect, the nerf on the DL is huge imo. But as long as we get other tools to boost our defense, I won’t mind…
At this point, I am not going crazy yet since trees arent’ out, but i am a bit worried seeing how the SP tree came out.
heres to hopping it all comes out alright lol.
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Well, my previous main was Mage. Apparently they’re not having a great time other there. 
Personally still happy I rerolled.
I’ve been on the fence about Hunter or Warlock for DF. Still on the fence after this, which at this stage, i’ll take as a good thing.
Pandemic back for Afflock? Demo loaded into your Felguard?!
My gods … horrible.
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Don’t lose hope, if anything from recent talent tree adjustments from other classes already in the Alpha, this is firstly just the datamine and even with the first iteration of the tree once it hits alpha, I’m positive changes and adjustments will come once people get their hands on it.
If anything it seems Blizzard is taking on feedback onboard this time round let’s just hope they continue this trend. 
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I liked Pandemic.
It rewards playing well.
And it’s a talent option, not baseline right? so if you disliked you can probably skip it (although I think it’ll be a meta talent).
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Serious AFF without metamorphosis leaves it alone.
Since they are keeping Malefic Rapture, the best thing they could do is restricting it only to UA, Agony and Corrption, then they can boost its damage.
Malefit Rapture is currently low damage because they have to balance it around the target having 6+ DoTs instead of only 3.
Another problem is that Malefic Rapture is balanced around being AoE, but we use it single target too. So a talent boosting its damage by 30% when hitting only one target would be great.
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If you really think that lock isn’t going to be an absolute tank, then you’re DEEP fried lol. 40sec 5% health pact? All sorts of drain life talents?
Locks are going to be immortal lol. Just because you can’t top yourself in 1/4 of a drain life anymore doesn’t mean you’re going to flop to air lol.
Chill out bro
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Everything shown is pretty much what we have on live with way way lower percentages.
The dark pact shield is same, you just only sacrifice 5 percent ho which is very nice.
But your drain life passives have been reduced way beyond 50 percent in without any compensation YET. Again, I am waiting for talent trees before reaching conclusions. If you think aff spec can survive with way way less then what you have live, then you are cray.