Filthy Retail player who wishes to embrace Classic

I’ll keep it nice and clean boys, I’m bored of Shadowlands, too much raiding mechanics, too much drama over simple things.

No one talks!

Mythic plus spamming bores me.

I loved questing! And honestly? I loved the old world.

But I’m really scared I wouldn’t have anyone to play with in Classic, is the game really dying (no sarcasm) or its really an active community that allows players to play and group up?

Also, is it worth to start playing or wait for TBC or an eventual fresh reroll server?

Thanks a lot!

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I feel like all answers to this are going to be relatively subjective. It’s free to play with your WoW Subscription, so why not check it out?

The RP servers have a bunch of RP and community type events, and I imagine fewer raid-loggers, so Grobbulus, Deviate Delight, etc. might be worth checking out.

I’d recommend rolling a character on a server that you think you might like, and checking around for a leveling guild. If you can find a couple other players who are around your level and who play around the times you do, as well as take an active role in recruiting people you run into, you’ll probably have a good leveling group of buddies before you know it.

Best of luck!

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Be prepared to get some conflicting responses to this question. It’s been brought up a couple times before in slightly different contexts. Some will say that Classic is the bee’s knees and is all about that tight knit community feel but your mileage will vary.

I should start off asking what you want to get out of Classic?

Whether you want to Raid or do high end PvP, you still have to level. One thing to keep in mind that, at this point in Classic’s lifespan, you’re not going to see many levelers. Reason for that is because of the “Boosting Meta”, where established players skip leveling alts the traditional way and pay a Mage heaps of gold to level them up in dungeons via AoE grinding down elite mobs.

So the leveling experience may be pretty lonely and you can’t count on a guild to be chatty unless you use discord. Again, mileage may vary and you might find a really helpful, chatty guild.

For Raids, again, you have to find a way to get into lower tier raids to start getting your initial gear as you most likely won’t be carried into Naxxramas. Most people gear tunes via GDKP runs where you bid on loot, again, having that gold barrier.

PvP is a nonstarter as you will end up getting completely steamrolled by folks with Naxx gear. But yet again, mileage may vary depending on server or time of day and you might run into other non-raiders and have a better chance at survival.

To cut it to you straight, this is a very new-player-unfriendly time to get into Classic. There’s a lot of cool, immersive things about this game but it’s harder to enjoy solo. There is a glimmer of hope though for Burning Crusade Classic. Once it gets officially announced and they explain how they’re gonna roll out the servers, you’ll see people return to Classic to “prep” new characters or current ones for the expansion.

But that’s all conjecture, rumors and leaks at this point.

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It’ll also depend on what server type you wanted and also what faction you wanted.

I play Bloodsail (RP-PvE) Hordeside atm and you see a handful of guilds running around for the most part. Hordeside BB DOES IN FACT have people leveling but the catch is that a lot of them are “Hardcore” challenge players (sometimes called the Amish Challenge) that flock to BB Horde for some reason and will refuse to group with those that aren’t doing this same challenge.

Said challenge is “If you die, you delete your character, and you don’t interact with others not doing the same challenge” which makes the low levels very lively but also very lonely at the same time.

In fact, there might be like one active RP guild on Hordeside Bloodsail and it’s a Tauren tribe I think but they take everyone. Everyone else raidlogs or does hardcore challenge.

Hoping that the Blood Elves help give us a boost of life. WRA lives off its Belf population lol

Also immediately join lfg chat. If it’s filled with paid boosters looking to sell their services and few to no people looking for level appropriate groups you’ll find it hard to find groups there.

That’s just not true. While bloodsail is a low pop server I see many people running alts and still can find groups at all levels to run dungeons. Most of my guild are leveling up alts the nights they’re not raiding.

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That fills me with hope. Maybe I’ve just been unlucky (but I do work weird hours so there’s that as well).

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well if you roll atiesh server alliance side, my 60 mage can help ya get started. i’ve power levelled / helped countless people over the years, for free. question is, do you want to roll pve alliance.

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Disagree with this, it’s probably easier than ever for new players to get gear. Mc/bwl/zg/aq20 pugs will take people in greens just to fill bodies. Aq40 pugs usually have some form of gear check but you can get enough gear pugging the other stuff. The catch-up gear added in the dungeons as well help greatly.

Though retail culture has seeped pretty far into wow, be prepared to see many ads for boosts and gotta go fast dungeon rush culture still.

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Classic is basically a lot better in terms of people helping each other, but its a bit quiet like wow always is. You generally wont find much for dungeon groups because people tend to buy boosts. generally speaking though I am pretty busy farming gold, killing bots and having fun. Still haven’t found a family guild yet but its never too late to join.

Start today ! Like RIGHT now!

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Oh my…You havent seen drama until you watch 40 people fight over 3 pieces of loot

Good luck, and may god have mercy on your soul

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I think phase 5 was easier. AQ40 ended up being quite an easy raid, and guilds were willing to carry undergeared players there. Most guilds finished with AQ40 in less than 2 hours, and had time to also clear MC and BWL. You could go from dungeon blues to full epics in a month.

Naxx is hard. Most guilds only do Naxx now. New players don’t get rot gear from lower tiers any more, since pure guild MC and BWL runs are rare now. Yes, you can PuG, but you aren’t funneled loot.

Depends on your definition of dying. On my server onyxia, nefarian and rend heads drop on cooldown. My guild is still going strong. Plenty of people have burned out, sure. But there’s still a strong community.

I haven’t personally experienced coming into it in the middle, but I’d imagine it’s not too hard to gear up a fresh 60 with all the soft res pug runs going on. You should be able to get into Zul’gurub and AQ20 runs to get yourself some good starting gear. From there you should be able to get into BWL and once you get enough gear from there you’d be ready for AQ40 and Naxx. People are hurting for healers everywhere so a priest, druid, shaman or paladin would be excellent choices if you want to get into raids easier.

Every time I get annoyed at retail for getting 0-1 drops in a Castle Nathria full clear, I do remind myself that at 3 items per 20 ppl, the raid’s still getting 3x more loot than the 2 items per 40 we get here.

Loot here is far more interesting though instead of every item being itemized the exact same there.

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People talk because there is no auto grouping and no cross server BS. You’ll like this aspect.

Classic is very social game. Way better than retail. People are talking about TBC, tbc will be just like retail… junk with dungeon finder.

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I’d say just level no matter your plans so you are ready for TBC. You don’t want to miss out a second time for that insanity of thousands of people leveling at the same time with no CRZ. I’ve been reveling on a new server in preparation and so far it’s not 100% dead, but it seems a little barren.

Well it is a low pop server especially horde side with all the problems that come with it. I’d like to see more players, maybe we’ll get some with BC. But from my perspective it’s not as bad for me as it is for you.

Yeah no doubt. Gear in classic is 100x more rewarding imo. I can tell you every single item im wearing and probably have a story behind it.

Retail is pulling back to that feeling some, but i dont think that playerbase could ever handle classic loot again. Theyre ready to eat one another over the changes that exist right now. Epics have been raining on them so long that anything but that has them chomping at the bit

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