Issue is most people are not casual just awful at the game and wouldn’t accept a casual mode.
People are not comfortable confronting the fact they suck at the game and point to other unrelated things as the source of their woes. Its why back when we had pve and pvp servers nearly every successful ce guild was on a pvp server despite it working against them.
NO! Why would you want to split the community? Everyone can go the pace they want to now and be happy. War Mode on/off doesn’t matter you can still que and do group for dungeons and raids…
I exist to make the sweatlords cringe in my negative 30 ilvls from whatever is considered dungeon entry level.
Also, don’t be shy about it. I’ve seen these elites preen on their gladiator mounts wearing legendary pants sporting purple RIO
It’s like we exist to remind each other why we are here in the first place.
I relish in being bad. And yes I have kids, three pool noodles, a full time job, elderly parents and enough carpal tunnel and L5 back problems to cripple an average person unaccustomed to the pain.
I advocate for speed runner servers. Gladiator PvP only servers. Meanwhile, I’ll be on the sitting under the sunset talking to the old dwarf server.
This is how I play. It’s the journey. Not the destination Frodo
And you know what. I haven’t left the Ringing deeps yet. And I was EA
One of these options will likely die, and it definitely wouldn’t be the casual player one. You’d be in the same place OG Classic WoW is at best.
I’ve been playing a long time, I have a slower play style,
I do enjoy group content I love seeing the dungeons and raids, but that is not to say I like the go go go mentality of it here lately. I enjoyed actually having to set up pulls, use CC, and have an actual strategy, that seems to be missing from the game lately, I love everything retail offers.
My play style may not be yours, and yours may not be mine. Im good with that.
Your split modes have merit, but at the same time would not work for a person like me who actually enjoys most of the content.
I wish they would make dungeons like they used to they were much harder. You didn’t face roll everything, you took your time set up the pulls marked things out like what had to die first. The game has come a long way but in doing so lost a lot of what made it fun.
You have to admit that this…
…was funny.
But well presented!
The hardest part is separating the gogogo crowd from the “Let’s be careful around this next corner” crowd.
But the cold truth is that for all those folks that enter dark dungeons with flickering torches, slowly brushing cobwebs away. The ones reading and getting tracings of the etchings off the ancient idols, by the 3rd, 4th, 5th time they’re through it – it’s GOGOGO!
Nothing stops folks from questing. Leveling and Questing are not connected. With the scaling, there’s not difference between questing at 70 or 80 anyway.
Imagine what you could accomplish if you put this energy into something useful.
I would go back to doing LFD if there was a casual option.
Like, it doesn’t seem to occur to people that say things like this that the REASON most LFD players are speed runners is because that is all that is really allowed anymore in LFD. Anyone else tends to get booted/becomes unwelcome.
This might be an unpopular opinion here… but, outside of the already mentioned queueing issues, a big problem with this is simply the fact that people running the “you don’t pay my sub” crowd still wants to be able to get the rewards from the “I haven’t touched grass for the last 3 months” crowd.
Just get rid of M+ in the main game and make it a standalone game, where players don’t level their characters but their gear. In my opinion the main game was better before the M+ hype started.
Delves say “hi”.
I am a filthy casual because I am sweaty at drawing and not WoW. That’s how I am both filthy and a casual.
I have a feeling, a good percentage of the casuals would opt in to the speed run regardless so they can get carried to a quick completion of the activity. Not many players are willing to babysit 4 other players, certainly not casuals, imo. Imagine 5 casuals with no idea how to do a mechanic and zero initiative to google it.
Just because someone is a casual does not mean they do not or are not willing to look up mechanics. With the speed runners there is no time to actually learn the mechanics while the dungeon is being face rolled.
Please don’t lump all causal players in to the same group, there are some of us that love to run the dungeons just not speed run them.
There should be a button you press.
If you want casual, press the ‘casual’ button, and you’ll enjoy the game at a casual speed.
If you want go go go, press the ‘go go go’ button and you’ll be transferred to a CoD server.
Good luck!
This is exactly why I am not the “peacebloom” type. I got better things to do, and just wanna gear my toon. I literally wanna log in, do my raid, do some mythics, and bail. I haven’t read a quest text since '09. And prolly haven’t watched a cinematic since '10.
See this is where you have it all backwards. Generally the “try hards” DON’T have to avoid sunlight for weeks in order to do things quickly and efficiently. Rather, most of the time, peacebloom types just hold us back and make things take longer.
I wouldn’t be apposed to your proposed separation of the two, for the above reason. But we both know that Blizz never will do this, and this post was just a troll post.
“I have a job, three kids, and a Murloc-shaped pool float, but I Gotta go fast!”
Which category should I fall?
Another idea added to the “Let’s Kill World of Warcraft in One Change 101” pile…
As a casual player whom learns mechanics before I queue and does not enjoy speed runs, I’m not lumping, but other players will. Are you insinuating that splitting the queue will magically eliminate a long-standing stereotype? I’d bet against that all day long.