its basicly just a quick join stub, why are we not funding this?
What is a “join stub”?
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There’s already a quick join for easy content.
Hard content has reasonably there isn’t an auto Que
Just another “make raids and mplus able to be qued” post.
Its a chat command that provides a clickable link to what your party is about and how many people are in it, essentially letting people not on your friends list look at your group as though they were on your friends list looking at the quick join tab.
Has nothing to do with queues, has everything to do with finding a group on your server
Isn’t that the same thing as putting your group up in the Group Finder and just picking the first person who applies?
No, its more social.
So it is group finder, but more spammy in the chat and that constitutes as social? People used to do this before back in the day pre-RDF/LFD and that’s where the whole “sitting in cities for hours, looking for people to join” comes from.
Also you do understand that WoW is built with addons in mind and FFXIV isn’t, so their “version” of addons is putting a bunch of functionalities that are typically associated with addons in WoW as baseline code/commands into the game, right?
What you are suggesting already exists in the group finder. But if you wanted an even more exact version of it, make it! Genuinely, you can just make it. Learn some LUA and make an addon to do this thing, whatever you think it’ll do.
addons are a design failure, they can implement it and beat me to the punch.
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Shh don’t speak too loudly, but it’s true lol.
In the early days it was mostly interface changing stuff, some threat meter and DPS meter, but now addons do everything. Shoutouts, cooldowns, what’s happening when. WeakAuras.
Would really love to see the M+ scene without any addons, and how that would work.
Lord knows I’ve been advocating for addon-free or at least some baseline addons built-in for PvP, because you can immediately tell who in there isn’t running any.
It’s just- someone without any addons might as well be playing a different game or difficulty, because they help that much.
And I don’t believe they’re a crutch, folks that use them tend to be knowledgeable, but I do believe someone who can play on the same level without, is inherently better- paying attention to more while relying on less.
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It would be better, hands down, because the elephant in the room regarding M+ toxicity is that the trash talking sweats who run everyone else down aren’t really that good, they just spent more time (and maybe money) on their addon setup than everybody else.
Why would they implement something which already exists in the game that makes more sense for WoW, but seemingly just you are unhappy with? If you want this pfinder thingy, either make it yourself … or don’t.
That’s the end of that.
- M+ ain’t toxic, stop spending so much time online and actually socialize with people.
- The most toxicity you’ll find in any skill-based progression activity will always be at the lowest levels, because of the people who are perpetually stuck there but can’t accept that they are the problem.
- Referring to people who like challenges as “sweats” is one of the dumbest synonyms terminally online people have come up with.
- Spending time in a game playing the game is usually referred to as playing a game. It is just plain weird that you find that somehow to be something negative.
- You aren’t allowed to sell addons usable in WoW. People who have tried that have been sent ultimatums by Blizzard to either cease and desist or to make the addon free.
This is why I don’t take anyone’s complaints about addons seriously. Because people are just plain ol’ categorically wrong and spread weird toxicity and misinformation.
Right you can’t sell add-ons.
Except for the guy whose free M+ addon has over a million downloads, and he sells a premium version via Patreon.
But AKSHUALLY that’s not selling an addon, right?
Your long winded protest is proof I’m right.
Don’t forget the TSM addon also has a paid subscription tier.
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They aren’t a crutch, they’re a necessary part of achieving better design. They help highlight specific design failures, such as the inability to send a chat link to advertise your group. FFXIV’s command is a great feature and they should add it.
We already do have a group finder. Not just a Looking for Dungeon.
HEY!
This guy is praising that weeb sh1t in our WoW safe-space!!!1!!111!
BURN THE WITCH!
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It wouldn’t change much. The good players will still be good, and the bad players will still be bad.
The content would need to be nerfed though.