FFXIV Ultimates vs WoW Mythics. Which is more difficult?

Lack of addons are a part of it. Another part is getting 8 people to play right is much easier than getting 20 people to play right. Another part is the gameplay is slower in general since the netcode in FFXIV lags by like 1-2 seconds compared to virtually none in WOW (with the game and bosses designed around that).

Lol why is this thread back?

Ultimates don’t get nerfed over and over and over and over and over again so there’s your answer.

Edit: Also, the only people that could probably really answer the question is Echo since they still play 14 on the side. They are the only ones still playing 14 but also clearing Mythic raids before they get nerfed.

you’re forgetting about all the Off GCD abilities that you need to weave in between the GCD abilities. A lot of FFXIV classes will have just as high APM at max level as WoW classes.

No they don’t. You can compare APMs via logs.

FF14 is a slower game. DF also made WoW classes more complicated than FF14.

Also, Mythic Tindral alone is bonkers compared to anything in FF14 at the moment. Where ultimates really test you is fight length. Those things will grind you down.

…what?

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They don’t, and it isn’t.

Not a fan of FF. Combat is so slow and plodding.