So… my old tier set is simming higher than the new one…
Ya, just noticed old set 4 piece at 415 is simming 700 DPS higher than 2 and 2 with the new set pieces at 437…
Which is a pretty serious disadvantage. And that’s assuming the full set will out performs the current set. But this keeps feral from upgrading 4 slots until you have a complete set.
And unless the 4 piece bonus is phenomenal, considering where already behind the 8 ball in raid and just Meh in m+, man… this tier is looking bad.
I’ve passed up a 20 item level upgrade two weeks in a row because with breaking the 4pc set it loses 5k dps or more.
This week I took the tokens and bought crests to upgrade my weapon for a little over a 3k upgrade.
What sucks is it looks bad that I’m still only in the 420 gear range when applying to groups and people are legit passing on me in pugs because of item level. Try explaining that season 1 tier is better than higher item level gear to some faceless person in the game. It goes oh so well 
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One of these days when the catalyst opens up I can upgrade the gear in my bags and get some tier pieces that way. Unless for some reason I get lucky in a pug raid before then.
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Ive had crap luck with tier this season so far. So im still rocking 402-405 pieces drom last season. Had a person leave my 16 key yesterday because “sorry but your ilvl too low tank”
Even with a random disconnect leading to a wipe, we did just fine
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I’m curious what led you to come to this conclusion, because this is not my experience at all.
I definitely agree that our single target doesn’t feel rewarding enough for how difficult it is to execute optimally.
I also definitely agree that having to go 4p to 4p feels awful. I was stuck at 2p/2p for a while, and that was 100% the wrong decision.
Our AoE is very niche, very large extended pull. And if every pull is like that, we look ok to very good.
If it’s not like that we look average.
On tyranical, large pulls, but not extended length. So things die before we get rolling with Apex procs.
On fortified, smaller pulls and it seems like we get out damaged on most 4-7 size pulls by a lot of classes.
Then we get to a boss…
Inverse of our M+ problem in SL where our single target was nice, but not nice enough to overcome our bad AoE.
I agree with this.
I disagree with this. It’s not a Tyrannical/Fort related thing, it’s a keystone level thing. Once you get to 20+ everything always lasts long enough for our AoE to be great.
Really that’s relative to the groups gear. A heroic would take just as long if everyone was in 250 gear.
At the risk of talking past each other, I’d say ferals profile 8 and above. With practiced groups and assigned interrupts you can do that when you’re at the limit of your gear. Not really a pug thing though.
Think we need something like that torghast aura, bonus when you have three bleeds on only a single target.
Thats because the agility bonus you get is percentage based. The more agility you get, the the better your tier bonus will be. My opinion is it’ll scale pretty well as we aquire higher end gear and appropriate trinkets.