are we going to ever talk about how they are the worse tanks,take more damage,do the less agro, and 0 aoe because swipe is a joke? like cmon lets see some druid tank buffs for crying out loud. Before any of you say i dont know what im talking about, i run bfd everyweek twice a week with my war,pally, and feral tank. Druid are sooo bad and nothing has been done.
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Bears will be fine P2… Dire Bear Form is huge.
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No, we wont be… we lack the tool kit atm due to a few large issues… ive posted here A LOT in recent days as well as on wowhead…
Swipe does not scale with anything making it complete dog****… does the same damage if ur naked or in BiS please allow it to scale with AP
We lack a “shield slam” style ability for snap threat!! In TBC mangle filled this role extremely well… but here we have to choose between mangle and lacerate… makes zero sense as every other tank has a snap threat ability…
As far as taking the most damage i disagree with the tank rune instead of wild strikes we are very tanky but then we dont bring the WF buff for our group i am unsure why this is like this? Currently i dont have a useful bear rune for legs… but i have 2 slots where i have to make an impossible choice… WF or actually be tanky?.. and mangle vs lacerate?? We need to be able to bring all of this…
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Bears were fine in classic… you had to farm MCP for threat but lacerate sort of fixes that issue.
Bears are not AE threat tanks… just like warriors and rogues…
I think the biggest issue in P1 was rage generation…I would like to see Enrage not lower armor though…
I also would like to see Mangle on a different rune slot… but I don’t think that is going to happen…
We likely will see Ironfur or Survival Instincts at some point…
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Sure, just make a rune that increases their tanking ability but removes their options to heal or DPS if they want their power in that area comparable to classes that can’t do all 3 roles at any given moment
Will you shut your mouth once and for all?
Damn it your class can tank AND do excellent damage at the same time and yet you asked for literraly gutting the druid?
What I’d like to see is rage normalization and WF/WS removed from quick strike rune, then we’ll talk about your stupid ideas.
Ignore Tirel… he is a cancerous troll…
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The devil hates the truth, hence your anger
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Yeah there is a lot of glaring issues and runes conflicting with each other for Bear. It doesn’t feel like you are making and interesting choice, it feels like you are missing half your sht.
You have to choose between tank rune and wildstrikes, why? Combine them its stupid that tank Druids don’t give windfury and cat’s do.
You have to choose between mangle and lacerate, why?
Why was there no rune to fix swipe being a worthless spell that doesn’t scale.
Bear needs help next phase.
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“Oh bother”
You now aggressively try to get all the honey out of the honey jar, allowing your melee attacks to hit two targets while in bear form and with 15% increased threat, but your healing spells are reduced by 75%
They are definitely boring and pretty weak. bear needs more abilities or their current abilities significantly buffed
For druids, blizzard should probably pick one rune slot and make it a choice to be dedicated to being a better bear, cat, boomie, or healer and provided bonuses to those forms/spells specifically.
It’s a survivability upgrade but doesn’t address threat issues, or defensive cool downs.
I guess we’ll see what runes they add but bears need a LOT of work just to get them to base TBC levels. And a lot of itemization will have to be custom for bears in all the new content because base vanilla was horrible for bears(and feral in general)
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This would be 100% a viable option based on what they did with warlocks and metamorphosis changing a half dozen things.
clearly you didnt play much bear in classic… if you missed with a maul or it was dodge/parried you had to wait an entire 2.5sec or 1.25sec of ZERO TPS b4 you get a chance to even hit the boss again and if you got double parried you were SOL for 5 sec… this was complete BS…
Now in SOD we still have no snap threat option! we have zero TPS until 3 stacks of lacerate which is 3 globals of wait time vs EVERY OTHER TANK who can hit 1 ability and boom they have enough of a lead to start the DPS…
all I am saying is we need a “shield slam”, “judgement”, “earthshock” style ability a single medium sized hit with high threat on a 6-12sec CD
P.S
PLEASE LET SWIPE SCALE WITH AP atm it is and will remain a complete waste of a global/rage.
its level 25 my dude. They are as good as the others
Druid rely on agility to feel strong as they have no mitigation outside of dodge
You bring druids for single target bosses… not for trash
they are not at all my dude please look into it b4 coming with a counter point.
druids dont really stack agi in classic a lot thats TBC and up… in classic we rely on large health pools and armor cap
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It’s probably worth waiting to see what the runes are before complaining pre-emptively. Feral needs help, that’s for sure, but there’s a good chance every class is getting 2 new rune slots in phase 2 (9 rune slots were datamined in total). Hopefully phase 1 has given them a decent idea what each spec is lacking.
Just sticky this on the front page of SoD forums.