With 60 and the endgame content I was really, REALLY, hoping Feral would get a brand new rune ability/passive that would round out our class and give us an actual pvp kit to work with. A kit that classic feral druid was always missing. As it stands right now if OTK ever decide to do a SOD dueling tourney, I would not pick feral for it AT ALL! NOT BY A LONG SHOT! Even though I’m a feral druid 1 trick!!!
Instead we got swipe in cat form… and it only hits for 50-100 more dmg than the normal spell… oh it also hits more people in bear ( don’t worry I’m not excited either for PVP with this.) Hopefully our gear gives us the PVP kit we where missing. (but I’m not expecting it. )
Moonkin is great though credit where credit is due, THAT TALENT SPEC FINALLY actually has a kit with abilities that work with and complement one another. reducing cast time, increasing damage, stunning, heals in moonkin form, can also dispel poisen and curses, and war stomp. (And now I cant stress this enough.) THATS AN ACTUAL PVP KIT !!!
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Feral is dog water at pvp
Moonkin at 60 right now is almost as bad. They’re getting blasted on the PTR
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yea they are… and it was liek that all phase 2 and phase 3 (well moonkin not so much)
Cat feral will never be good in pvp when to comes to 1v1’s, you either run out of mana before you can do anything meaningful as you only get 3-4 shifts, or you get the opener on someone that doesnt expect it.
Only bear has the ability to solo someone, and its a 3 minute window when you have berserker rolling with the mangle spams.
with the way cat talents are structured, and how squishy cat is with no damage stops, and inferior energy regeneration compared to a rogue, we will never be top, or beat the top classes in pvp. Pallys vs druids, pallys win.
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Right now boomkin is probably the easiest class to gank/duel as a rogue anyways.
Almost feel bad enough to let the poor horde boomkins go by, almost…
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that’s a lil cooked, (but not wrong) yea like 99% of the time it is USELESS in 1v1s. I only use cat form for getting an opener or vs Spriests, (and sometimes that not even correct because of homoncule. And the fact beserk + mangle will hit priest + homonc’s so mangle get 3x the value.)
OTHER THAN THAT… HARD agree with everything you said. Its truly lacking a kit.
Feral stopped being good in pvp after phase 1 sunfire kiting. They’re kind of a joke.
Still in demand for WSG flag carrying tho.
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Actual FACTS
I thought the SOD team had a plan to tie all classes runes together at 60 and I don’t know about other classes but … it doesn’t feel like that at ALL with feral. (feels like random components thrown together that druids liked. Im just so discouraged with it.
And Swipe cat is only decent during zerk. If u need to aoe for more than 4s bear swipe outshines the damage cat does since we out of energy so fast.
So, yeah its a dog sh it rune.
Wish they remove position req. from shred so we could pull numbers while solo playing or giving something fun.
We re doomed to be runing totens buffing other ppl AGAIN.
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Feral PVP is a meme-spec until TBC SoD. The only way to fix Feral is to use the TBC talent trees. Since that isn’t going to happen in this iteration of SoD, Feral will continue to be the lolwut PVP spec that it was back in 2004-06 (runes nonwithstanding).
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The bad feral players showing their heads as they refuse to press their power shift macro for 60 energy when they run out.
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Sure being 95+ parse must suck
Until mobility increases for other classes there should basically be no reason you die to anyone in any rendition of Vanilla as a Feral Druid
I haven’t seen one Feral QQ post where the player actually talents Natural Shapeshifting either
I see the “Feral PvP” community is still in shambles, shame…
The feral community stopped playing months ago, all you see thats left is a shell of hollow players that deal with the spec in any form that blizzard decides to make them. We all know its true. We were dying for something new and its just recycled energy starved garabage
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You parse in pvp? That’s neat man, what boss is that?
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10000000000000000% true
and im sorry but its just SO FREAKING SAD to see. Like seriously they said themselves that this season they where going to be trying a bunch of “new” things in this seasonal vanilla experience.
RIMINDER AS JEDDITE ALREADY POINTED OUT!
95% of what they have given feral is just recycled abilities from different expansions. And the problem is that the feral talent tree in those expansions worked with and complimented the abilities to give feral an actual kit.
SOD? TEAM? HELLO?!
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Im honestly surprised we didn’t get PS. Esp since shammies got their maelstorm stuff. PS wouldnt even be OP since we don’t have cyclone and would solve -some- mana issues in pvp.
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Me to man! I was expecting so many different things but this rune just blindsided me.
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All of SOD PVP is and has been dogwater. If you look at the last 3 trash seasons in a row and don’t expect more trash well then… enjoy your trash.
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I have not played feral since p1 and made multiple posts about the state of feral with little traction. PvP is fun when there is competitive classes and good counter play opportunities. Feral is in bad shape 
feel bad for them.
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