Hey guys what should I tank as? for mythic plus that is
fel scarred is a fury based playstyle where you more or less send everything on cooldown. the up-front threat of fel devestation into your demonsurge combo is excellent. I think it is the higher potential damage of the two, but you can pick defensive options, too.
aldrachi reaver is a soul fragment based play style that takes a bit more management due to building and spending stacks of consumed souls. the hero talent procs reavers glaive that gives a buff called thrill of the fight. this buff helps you for damage, healing and resource generation.
admittedly I am only running +7s right now, but I find the versatility of aldrachi useful and enjoyable.
in addition to the thrill of the fight buff, there are two other hero talents that make a difference:
-incorruptible spirit is a nice passive healing source based on soul fragment consumption.
-wounded quarry is a damage boost debuff that youput on the target of the reavers glaive.
to me, aldrachi is more flavorful and also more versatile. any tank has the challenge of doing good aoe damage on trash while contributing to boss or priority target damage. the reavers glaive helps you do that by choosing how you use your reavers glaive to enhance either aoe or single target damage.
I feel like fel scarred is better at aoe but worse at single target. and it has the feel of the way you probably have played VDH before.
in the end, if you want something that offers a straightforward fury-based playstyle that tends to not have threat issues, then fel scarred is probably your pick.
If you want a hero talent that offers versatility but takes a bit more attention, aldrachi is the way to go.
ymmv
both are viable, felscarred offers burst, big stand straight up bulk (probably better for alot of players)
reaver gives prio funnel dam and more healing
both are capable of timing the same level of keys.
I’m pretty sure FS is objectively more dps (ST or AoE) than AR. It’s also more tanky at baseline. It doesn’t have the self sustain of AR though.
In high keys, the edge tends to come out for AR because of its self sustain capabilities (when played well). However, FS is more than viable in high keys, and its lack of representation is more because people are sheep than because FS can’t perform well.
FS is probably more overall damage, but AR is absolutely 100% better at prio damage and you really arent losing that much AoE. I run the bomb-less AR build rn and am loving it. I’ve tried FS a couple times with illuminated sigils in place of AR and DIF. Just doesnt really do it for me,my health feels much spikier playing w/ bomb and fel-scarred, and i feel like im short a defensive a lot of the time. Thats probably just me though, i prefer the bomb-less AR playstyle.
ARs priority damage isn’t much above FS’s ST.
IS is more dps than DIF. it’s also better defensively but outside of singular bosses.
To be fair, when i play FS im taking soulmonger instead of FC, which certainly does not help with prio when I specifically play FS. But to say AR prio isnt that much better is a little disingenuous considering you are most likely playing FC and then wounded quarry damage also hitting the prio target. Your experience may differ, I’m literally tanking and playing veng for the first time this season and most of this is just trial and error on my part after reading guides and seeing what the top players are doing.
Kazi is right tho, people are doing too keys with fs as well and st seems to be doing more than Ar
But ultimately having the spec have so many builds and both hero trees viable is fantastic
whose running soulmonger? FC is a huge amount of damage lost, and it definitely shouldn’t be lost for something as meh as soulmonger. For one, FS doesn’t generate souls as much as AR does, and you’re also losing leech by gimping your dps.
I’m not the one who ran these numbers. The big 10lb brain nerds over in the discord did. FS is objectively more dps than AR. Even the top players who are running AR will tell you that. However, both specs are 100% viable.
Good god man. Lose Soulmonger and put it in Focused Cleave already.
I agree. I really wish the talent points for FS were as flexible, cause i much prefer that spec over AR.
AR is significantly tankier, FS has easier threat generation.
SM is not a meh, it’s 10% hp. If you struggle to survive SM is better than FC, if not FC > SM.
in comparison to FC, yes it is. We already struggle with DPS to be as tanky as we are, so hitting one of our biggest DPS nodes for a talent that needs overhealing to take effect is pretty meh.
FS is tankier at baseline. AR has more self sustain.