Given the nature of progression it would be really cool if you could do max difficulty delves and get mythic gear from the Vault. There should be a choice between Mythic raiding, T11+ Delves and M+ for character progression and each with its own unique rewards.
The Gilded Crests are a step in the right direction for T11 but the cap on it should match the weekly cap from M+ and Mythic raiding tbh.
Adding more options for player progression would be a W imo.
Because they want delves to be doable regardless of spec, class, role or number of players, it would be very difficult to develop them with myth level difficulty. That’s a lot of variables. Even a simple mechanic like having a cast that absolutely must be interrupted won’t work because disc and holy priests don’t have an interrupt. They’d also likely have to add a timer which would make a lot of people unhappy.
The roadmap they released a while ago mentioned Horrific Visions returning in 11.1.5. That had myth level loot in is original incarnation. I suspect they are bringing that back to serve as the high difficulty high reward component of the solo/delve pillar. That way they can tune that separately without having to worry about breaking what a lot of people like about delves as they are. If successful, maybe they’ll be able to integrate the mechanics into delves themselves later.
The choice is follow Delves with M+ for your myth track gear, or stop progressing.
Rewarding myth track gear from Delves would only hurt M+ engagement, and they’re not going to allow that.
Well if they did a “horrific visions” scenario even if it was a .5 patch to not harm M+ etc then that’s fair.
Its just there should be flexibility in how to progress and Delves on a “Mythic” setting, lets say beyond T11 would be a great way to do that.
I get the detractor of M+ but having unique ways to progress would be good imo. Didnt see the Horrific Visions post so ill have to dig
This. Make it hard, make it fun, make it happen. Cant wait 45 minutes to get into an M+ anymore 
Not exactly. You Mythic Ny’alotha back then was 475/485, and the max you could get from Visions was 470, which was on par with Heroic N’zoth.
Ah. You’re right. Someone else had mentioned it being myth level and I never actually doubled checked. That makes it less likely but still a more viable option for solo myth vault than delves in their current form.
It was 470 with a guaranteed corruption effect on it which was better than a mythic non corrupted piece depending on your weekly cloak upgrade.
Until the corruption vendor was added vision gear was pretty relevant for mythic+/raiders unless you were extremely lucky early on.
Yea so having something as like a Tier 11+ would help with that.
I mean, with the upgrade system, S2 T11 is functionally that.
You get ilvl equal to last boss heroic (through vault, but you were limited to 1 item per week at that ilvl with visions back in 8.3), and some gilded crests.
Im specifically referring to vault giving Myth quality gear via T11+ and the Gilded Crests to follow the weekly cap.