Feedback: Non-Class-Set Item Rewards

I dont think they’ll add a new trinket (it’s just more work for them). Yes, I think there are better solutions, but I wouldn’t categorize changing House of Cards as a mistake.

Thanks for all of the feedback so far! Noting these changes here for context:

  • Eye of Kezan, Mug’s Moxie Jug, and Reverb Radio should trigger more consistently across all talent specializations.
  • House of Cards cooldown reduced to 1.5 minutes (was 2 minutes), duration reduced to 15 seconds (was 20 seconds), and reduced variance of potential Mastery to ±10% (was 15%).
  • Fixed an issue where the transform cast from Best-in-Slots was not immediately interrupted upon entering combat.

As you might imagine, House of Cards was changed due to a lack of other 1.5 min cooldown options across both Mythic+ and the raid. This left players preferring such effects limited to trinkets with a lower potential item level. Any specialization preferring a 2 min cooldown may opt for Signet of the Priory, while casters also have Soulletting Ruby at their disposal.

Regarding tuning feedback, we are still very early in the tuning process. Players can expect a pass prior to Season 2, adjustments to significant outliers in the early weeks of the season, and (barring any surprises) final adjustments following the Race to World First.

Tangentially, it is not intended that class modifiers (such as Unholy Death Knight’s) should affect the damage of non-class summons from trinkets such as Candle Confidant, Sigil of Algari Concordance, or Zee’s Thug Hotline. While this change has been present on Zee’s Thug Hotline since start of testing, it will be applied to the other trinkets in a future PTR build.

We’re investigating this as a possible bug affecting absorb effects more broadly.

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Its so weird. My trinkets are doing less damage when im tanking than as dps… can we get tank trinkets figured out plz… you guys did good in DF s3/4, made a whole post about them and their positives, and have just not followed through with any of it…

  • % armor doesnt mean the same % as of damage reduction
  • shields with such a low cap where any auto just erases it, are simply bad. If the shields are too big for non tank classes, make them only usable in a tank spec…

Signet of the Priory is LESS stats for 2m than house 1.5m, as a sin rogue I’d STILL have to run House and let it sit for half a minute.

PTR 678 Myth 6/6
Priory: 2m CD 7755 highest secondary stats 20s
House: 1.5m CD 8376 to 10237 Mastery for 15s (plus the stacking)

Yes, priory has the ‘share with others that have it’ thing but its so abysmally insignificant and it doesn’t help us at all with our burst window.

For reference a 639 6/6m Skardyn on current live is 6939 Mastery for 20s, Priory barely beats that.

So… yeah…

good changes here honestly. was going to become an issue in the long run if that kept up.

While it does seem like on PTR at the moment aura 429 and 531 are correctly respecting this for Zee’s Thug Hotline, Aura 380 (Debuff, Mod damage taken from non-primary pet) is currently increasing their damage.

Easiest reproduction steps should be
Talent Unholy Aura as Unholy.
Summon pet from zee’s thug hotline
Move in and out of Unholy Aura’s range and observe their damage change.

Hey, truly appreciate the blue-post answer from the Developement team with the explanation.

I have forgotten that Soulletting Ruby will be avaliable for the seasson, and while it does make me sad in relation to Raid Trinkets, i can understand and sympathize more thanks to your answer.