Feedback - New Transmog Situation

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I just won’t be transmogging as much as I used to. Thus I won’t do old raids or content or extra content for new mogs. Player housing has a gold sink / time sink to it already, we didn’t need this one on top of it. Plus gear still costs gold to repair, materials, raid and mythic + supplies. There is no way I am ever unlocking all the slots, and I’ll just have to be happy with an outfit for a while.

I’m sure token sales will go up from people wanting to cash in on the house currency and make easy gold in the process. I’m a mother of 2 (soon to be three). My husband and I have wow accounts and both of our children. There is no way in seven hecks I’m dumping irl money on tokens just to afford gold in a game I already sub to. =/

Sucks but I’ll just make an outfit and stick with it, at worse I’ll have more free time as I won’t be farming missed content or rare drops. Why bother if I can’t use them as freely?

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I love that there’s a Situation for our house. I’d also like to see a Situation for being in the neighborhood as well.

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Even if the slots were across the entire Warband, which they should be, 800k for all slots is insane.

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Having checking it out in game, I was shocked at the gold cost not only buying the outfit slots themselves, but then the cost of changing item slots or outfits is way too much. It seems like a huge step backwards and an unneeded gold sink. Really disappointed.

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Holy moley!

I thought this was just going to be an ‘Option’. That if we WANTED to build a slot based outfit we could.

Not that it was totally REMOVING the old way.

Put it back the way it was. Let me have a choice of how I transmog my gear.

Maybe I don’t want to spend that outrageous amount of gold for a whole outfit!

Maybe I’d just rather transmog on the fly here and there.

If folks want to make whole outfits for slots that’s great.

But don’t force everyone to spend that kind of ridiculous amount of money when we already have Housing Decore as a massive gold sink.

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I’m pretty alarmed by the cost of 20 “Outfit Slots,” but what if the Character Sets tab allows us to make a transmog “the old way” and it only requires one Outfit Slot to apply that legacy-style Character Set to your current gear?

Other have said that’s how it will work. My 20 Legacy Xmog sets from Retail did come across but most of them are not usable (likely just a bug). One that does mostly work is the Eternal Judgment Set (20th Anniversary Edition). I have a custom floating red crowing in that set seen in the yellow box on the right but it did not come across from Retail in my head-slot item transmogs list, so if I apply this to an Outfit Slot it will cost 5,100 gold, compared to 997 gold on Retail to apply that set (including the floating crown). That cost to apply an outfit to an Outfit Slot seems fine to me, but the cost to unlock all 20 slots is egregious (I have 20 slots at the ready now for free on Retail!).

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I think if you’re happy with just having 2-5 Outfit Slots and making all your “sets” under the legacy-style Custom Sets tab, then it just MIGHT be OK. It did let me create a new Custom Set (that I named Set 21), so it might be a viable path for those that don’t want to unlock 20 “situational auto-transmog” slots.

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If they do this, I will 100% quit this game for good.

I love transmogging so much I saved up in MoP to buy the mount, which at the time was OUTRAGEOUSLY expensive. It’s always kind of irked me that even with the mount, I am still paying to change my characters’ outfits. I have many alts and each one has her own unique outfits, lots of them.

Now they want to make it so expensive that most players will not be able to afford to buy all the slots. I would have to pay hundreds of thousands of gold for EACH character. For no good reason. This is the worst idea I’ve ever seen the dev team come up with, and that is saying something.

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I prefer the transmog system we have in the game now. I like changing the outfits myself and not having it auto do it for me, plus the price i terrible

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I love the idea of just having my “casual, off duty” outfit pop on when I get to my house. I love the idea of not having to remog everytime I get a new piece of gear.

But, the new mog system is not working for me for technical reasons. I copied my main over and I’m only getting a few custom sets when I know that all those spaces filled. Most of what I do I have says “incomplete” and I can’t equip it.

I have a few “sets” which I can equip, but there’s a 50/50 chance one or both shoulders will change.

And the only items I can access are plate. None of the merchant/cartographer/etc mogs that you can buy from a vendor or the trading post. And it’s near impossible to mog weapson.

So for me the entire system is crap, and that’s before I get to the VERY EXPENSIVE elephant in the room. They took some ideas with a lot of potential and then beat them down into the garbage disposal with a broom handle.

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Make sure that, in addition to having copied over your character, you have hit the “Copy Account Data” button, found at the bottom of the Copy Character window. Appearance collections are included in that account data, while just copying characters will only give you access to appearances in your possession (equipped, bags, bank) or that would have been awarded via quests that character has completed.

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They need to add back the helmet toggle option in the transmog menu somewhere. People aren’t gonna want to make 2 of the same outfit but one with a helmet and one without. Or spend 444g to put it back on each time.

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There is hope… there’s a blue post on the EU forums saying that: a) the unlocks will be Warband Account-Wide; b) the cost will not go up.

Hopefully b) means unlocking each slot is only 100g per slot. Even 1,000g would be better than how it is now; an exponentially increasing cost like capping at 797K gold cumulative spent for the 20th slot!? :enraged_face:
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Edit: corrected cost of 8th slot from 50k to 15k… cumulative total from 832K to 797K.

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Blizz should add an option to save as many outfits as you like but you can’t use them until you slot them into a paid spot.

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I don’t know if it’s “infinite” but “Character Sets” tab is where my existing “free” twenty (20) Xmog sets got imported to, there’s a “create new set” button there, and it let me successfully create & save a 21st set. Don’t know how high that goes, but it sounds just like what you’re asking for.

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This functionality is built into the new system. Make a separate set with helmet off, and Ignore on all other slots. You can then individually toggle off your helmet in every other outfit at zero cost other than the setup without access to a transmog vendor.

+1 to your suggestion. If there are concerns about hardware space or whatever, even just having locally saved Custom Sets beyond the 25 cap (like we do for macros) would be a tremendous help.

This functionality is built into the new system. You can disable situations entirely, manually swap outfits (even without a transmog vendor!), or temporarily lock situations out situations while swapping to a specific outfit. There is no cost to editing, disabling, or locking situations.

We only essentially have one outfit slot per spec on live, but without the multi weapon functionality. You can purchase nothing and use the system exactly how we do on live today, plus or minus gold cost based on how often you switch to brand new transmogs.

My worry with this is that other than a small few edge cases, the new system is drastically better than the old one. The old system, however, is slightly less complicated because it has significantly less power and flexibility. If you draw people into the old system, they will have to deal with the frustrations of the old system like paying money with every upgrade, and running into issues when respeccing.

It’s probably best that Blizzard focus on a solution that can help the edge cases rather than have both systems in side by side.

It’s not removed in any way, shape, or from with the exception of transmog by slot instead of by item. You can still use the 20 outfits you set up on live (they’re now called a custom sets), change them manually whenever you want by pressing two buttons, and not have any form of automation through situations. You can completely ignore the second free outfit slot, too.

I disagree. If you only use the first free slot, it works like it does on live minus slot based transmog. Slots 2-20 just add brand new functionality and the option to use situations. It is also extremely cheap for the first five slots (like 20 minutes worth of dailies and you have five account wide outfit slots), pretty cheap for the first 10 slots, still not too expensive for the first 15 slots. The last two slots alone are 25% of that entire 800k cost. Like warbound banks, there’s some huge gold sinks for whales but most people will be perfectly fine with the cheap stuff.

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My limited testing (because my 20 legacy sets on the Character Sets tab mostly do NOT work yet, prolly a bug), you still have to pay a cost to assign a “free” Character Set to the first “Outfit Slot” and that was 8,700g the first time I did it and 5,100 gold when I wanted to update to a different Character Set that still worked. That’s much more expensive than live, but if you’re happy with just one outfit, then it will be free “forever” after that initial cost as new acquisitions will auto-mog to that one outfit.

However, I could not find a way to apply any of the outfits under the Character Sets tab directly–they were required to be assigned to an Outfit Slot. Is that correct or did I miss a way to completely bypass all Outfit Slots?

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I can’t overstate how frustrating it is to feel this way in the housing expansion. We finally get actual housing, and somehow all of my hype has completely fizzled out because of this nonsense and all these little “gotcha” decisions to make every new feature needlessly worse.

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The custom sets must be applied to an outfit to used, you’re correct. (I haven’t run into any issues using custom sets yet, definitely report bugs if you haven’t already!). If you want to use the new system like live (minus cost differences, plus multi weapon transmog, and slot based xmog), just pretend that the second outfit slot doesn’t exist, and only apply to the main outfit.

If you use the “apply look to only this spec” feature on live to do separate xmog for each spec, you would need 2-4 outfits to match live. You would then just use the Situation feature to auto switch when you switch specs (via the equipment set trigger).

This may be more or less expensive for you compared to live, depending on how frequently you change what’s saved in the outfit / whether you had separate transmogs for specs or not, and upfront costs will vary based on whether you use spec based transmog or not. If you only change what’s saved in your entire outfit ~2-3 times per season without trial of style, the new system saves you gold since every new upgrade is automatically transmogged for all of your specs. If you change more than that, it’ll cost more. (This all assumes of course that you don’t take advantage of any additional outfits, and strictly use the system exactly like the one we have on live. I imagine most players will have six outfit slots minimum based on how cheap the first ones are).

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I also would like to see the twirl animation gone and just have the shimmer effects on applying an outfit.

Not only looks unecessarily goofy, the twirl isn’t even a good custom animation to begin with.

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Being able to hide our weapons would be a fantastic addition!

I also wouldn’t mind if they added cosmetic items that would transform our weapons into everyday items (there are some, but it’s rather limited). Being able to hold some regular household items (e.g. book, tea cup) would be great for when my character is in their home.

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