Feedback: Mythic+ Testing January 14th - January 21st

The War Within Season 2 dungeon continues on PTR today. The test period starts on Tuesday January 14th at 10:00 PST (13:00 EDT, 20:00 CEST), and ends Tuesday January 21st at 10:00 PST (13:00 EDT, 20:00 CEST). Please note that the test period may be adjusted in the event of technical difficulties.

This week testing is focused on the Season 2 War Within dungeons:

  • Priory of the Sacred Flame
  • Darkflame Cleft
  • Cinderbrew Meadery
  • The Rookery

We’ve recently been focused on making adjustments to two parts of the Mythic+ experience in Season 2 of The War Within.

First, we’d like to slow the pace of combat to allow for more coordination when groups are faced with dangerous casters. We’ve generally increased the cast times of more dangerous spells and removed, simplified, or slowed the casts of others.

Secondly, we’ve been reviewing the frequency of ‘tank buster’ mechanics throughout our dungeons. We’d like to generally reserve this gameplay for more dangerous creatures and dungeon bosses, so we’ve removed some instances of tank damage that we felt were inappropriate.

This week’s test will showcase some of these changes, but we’ll continue reviewing data and listening to feedback over the course of PTR.

Priory of the Sacred Flame

  • Ardent Paladin
    • Consecrate now has a precast visual and a 2.75 second cast time
    • No longer uses Seal of Light’s Fury
  • Zealous Templar
    ○ No longer uses Templar Strike
    ○ No longer uses Divine Storm
  • Arathi Footman no longer uses Mortal Strike

Darkflame Cleft

  • Minecart Event
    • The minecart’s candle light now burns more slowly
    • Default light radius increased
    • The light radius of candles now have a visual indicator
    • Shuffling Horror no longer uses Shadow Smash
    • Reduced the area effect size of Suffocating Darkness

Cinderbrew Meadery

  • Tasting Room Attendant’s Thirsty Duration changed from unlimited to 20 seconds
  • Careless Hopgoblin’s Reckless Delivery cooldown increased
  • Royal Jelly Purveyor’s Honey Volley cooldown increased

The Rookery

  • Kyrioss now has an increased hitbox range during Lightning Torrent
  • Cursed Rookguard no longer uses Crackling Crush
  • Void-Cursed Crusher no longer uses Implosion

During the test period you’ll be able to acquire and customize Mythic Keystones by talking to the Keystone Vendor in Stormwind or Orgrimmar, and the nearby Dungeon Teleports NPC will assist you with transportation.

We look forward to hearing your feedback!

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Cool, now remove peril

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You forgot about the last boss. That light size is absurdly small and completely nullifies the tiniest step outside.

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Reverting the stop / instant recast change would immediately fix this issue.

Reverting the tank nerfs would immediately fix this issue.

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and yet you guys destroyed prot warrior…gg. the dungeon changes are nice though

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Finally

Good changes.

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want to SLOW the pace of combat? that’s a great step, now make the MDI E-sports garbage play on LIVE servers and stop making the dungeons easier for them just to boost your numbers. People that watch that crap think that’s just how easy it is and think that’s how it should be done in live gaming… Just 2 cents that I know will get flamed by the blue lovers support group.

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Sounds great, but feels at odds with the timed mechanic of M+. I don’t know how to reconcile ‘taking your time’ and ‘coordinated’ with the rushed nature of M+ that’s emerged.

Not assigning blame, just something I noticed.

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who thinks this like honestly. its just entertaining to watch them break the dungeons.

so it’s entertaining to watch fake matches… go watch wrestling.

Mythic Plus should not be slow. Delves. Are for people that want slow. I believe there should be pulls that are possible to do super large, maybe not every mob in a dungeon but large pulls are fun! Small pulls are far less enjoyable. We have bosses for “small pulls” as in single target. Maybe if DPS could take talents that are good for both single target and AOE then smaller pulls wouldn’t feel so bad. (I’m a healer main, and even I don’t like small pulls. I don’t do any meaningful single target damage, and there often isn’t anything to heal either - and there shouldn’t be one single target/small pulls, don’t misunderstand what I’m saying: " allow for more larger pulls, allow for DPS to do meaningful single target DMG AND AOE DMG"

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Unless the default radius is significantly larger, this needs either nerfed more or the tank needs a perma small radius candle on them.

This was already the most difficult dungeon during leveling and on heroic, on heroic the minecart event is oddly more difficult than a lot of <5 keystone dungeons. When the small guys chain pop their explosion circles, it does a ton of damage, if tanks try to kite out of the light they get a DR and they don’t die, if some tanks who rely on higher self healing and self sustain walk out of the circle they get their self healing effectively removed.

Please for the love of god just put a perma candle on the tank, the event already requires the mine cart to reach the end already to proceed to the next boss.

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Great job putting warriors out of business and not even acknowledging that Brews exist in your game.

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Think you’re not quite getting what they mean.

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It’s one thing to look foward to ‘hearing’ feedback. We’ll be paying attention to how you follow through with the feedback provided.

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id be totally fine with you removing the entire minecart section. consider it RP if you want

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The candle RP will not translate well into M+ . Make it so that the minecart requires candles to move forward, but remove the whole darkness gimmick.

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Reverting the stop / instant recast change would immediately fix this issue.

This right here. I don’t care about anything else in S2 tuning (except maybe the Darkflame cleft cart event). Reverting this change would go so far to help with pug groups. Nothing feels worse than missing an important kick because someone sent an AoE stun or an Aug sends an Upheaval in their rotation. Now the ability just recasts again and the interrupt is on CD. feelsbadman

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Season two is going to have the same feeling as s1 if they dont do that. Also why are you keeping challenger’s peril ?

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