Please dear god do not bring back the frostfire blended spell again, It was Boring and annoying in Wrath and will be again. Having to hear the wooooooshing of a frost spell with frostfire and not the rumble burning sound of fireball as a fire mage and blue thrown in with red really took away being a FIRE Mage. These hero talent trees just are not exciting at all and if they are forced into game please make an option to just not go into the hero trees and use the talents in the main line ones as we have now. If I am playing a fire mage I want it to be that, Having a small smattering of other class spec pure spells to help with spell class lockout or off use is fine. Having some forced amalgamation of another specs spells/abilities mixed in with primary feels like a lazy attempt to make something more complex or different and annoying for pure sake of making a change. My views on this also apply to other classes. If you donāt dumpster the hero trees forcing the blending of spells then please let us just use the base spells still and not over write them with the blended one and be able to deactivate the trees all together. I can not fathom how this disaster got this far already.
You do realize you donāt have to choose the Frostfire hero treeā¦ right? There will be another option for both Fire and Frost. Furthermore, Frostfire Bolt has been the most requested retired spell ever so youāre definitely in the minority in not wanting to see it return. As a matter of fact, there has long been an outcry over limiting each Mage spec to just one element as that was not the case historically and makes no sense from a lore and roleplaying perspective.
So in other words, relax you wonāt have to use Frostfire Bolt if you donāt want to.
I do realize I do not have to pick frostfire hero tree, that leaves two other options Sunfury and spellslinger that are also blended together spell types that override the core spells. All 3 of them deviate form the more pure line specs. In the early days we had 3 trees and a max set of points, could mix and match as we pleased. Not ideally done but at least the spells in each where still not blended together multi magic types in one spell. I just want the 4th option to just keep the spec on more pure side and not have to use any of the blended ones. Blizz could just let us pick from all 3 trees Arcane, Fire, and Frost for where we spends the points. to mix and match as we please. Been playing mage since the beginning, I donāt plan on relaxing about this. Edit> To be clear, I am not against all the Mage magic types/spells being accessible to the class. My issue is the forced blending of them into multi magic types in a single spell with out option to use the āplainā ones of just fire, just frost, just arcane.
So I think thereās a fair criticism that having to choose a hero tree that forces you into a specific aesthetic isnāt ideal. While Iām not among them, I do empathize with the group of people that just want to be a fire mage or just want to be a frost mage. Their fantasy isnāt less important than mine.
We havenāt seen what Spellslinger or Sunfury look like or how they combine their respective schools. It could very well be that Spellslinger and Sunfury both maintain their primary aesthetics over a combined one. We just donāt know yet.
That being said, I donāt think at this stage Blizzard would be willing to make these Hero Specializations cosmetic only (which I think is probably the most ideal situation, and Iād tie them to questlines). So maybe the best we can do is provide feedback that the cosmetic side of the tree holds a lot of value with some players and ideally thereās a point where the player can opt-in or opt-out of the Hero Spec aesthetics.
Oh but we donāt know that. As a matter of fact we have no indication that this would be the case. Itās a huge leap to make that assumption based solely on the reveal of the Frostfire tree which by definition has blended skills.
I donāt think itās fair to call the current status quo āthe normā because as you point out yourself the pure specs were not always the norm. In fact it wasnāt really until Legion that this notion solidified because of the artifact weapons and the particular playstyle they necessitated.
That may very well still be possible.
Thatās a fair criticism and to be perfectly honest I have no good explanation for why that isnāt the case. Balancing concerns come to mind but as anyone who has spent any time playing this game can attest, there is no balancing in WoW, lol. Other games have far greater depth to their skill customization options, some going as far as having a separate skill tree for each individual ability! I am not suggesting WoW needs to go that far but there is certainly a lot of room for improvement.
I see you are a professional forumist and need to reply when others have other views, This game shall be played then in kind! GG well done with quotes. I hope blizzard employees spend even half the time you did looking at my feedback. Have a pleasant day.
Gotta love the forum users who come in to complain about things they imagined in their head and then bail the moment people dare to leave a slightly critical reply.
Sunfury sounds like āFire+ā for Fire and a hybrid Arcane/Fire for Arcane, while Spellslinger gives me the impression that itās not a hybrid, instead being about, well, throwing out spells. Meaning more projectiles for Missiles and Flurry, Frozen Orb shooting projectiles around it, that kind of thing, which would mean every spec has one hero tree thatās a āhybridā and one that isnāt.
Spellslinger could be a Spellfrost hybrid, but I doubt it. The fantasy isnāt as iconic as Frostfire and itād be too similar.
Complaints are part of feedback and bowing out of a interaction with someone giving my feed back to blizzard feedback of their own is fine. I did bail willfully so. Blizzard is using a Venn diagram so given how fire and frost mix is why I am assuming it is going to be same for other two. If it was not a Venn diagram then I would have not locked onto the they all are blended. I appreciate the call out of what I am imagining based my interpretation of what we do know so far at this time form what has been shared by blizzard. You are doing your own imagining as well, as are most in this thread. Until blizzard gets around to giving a more finished set of info feedback is based on what has been given so far and best guess with complaints. Have a good day, ScalĆe.
I donāt understand why you took offense, I assure you none was intended. The quoting feature enables one to reply with more clarity. Itās the only way that can be achieved on this kind of platform where direct exchanges arenāt possible.
We have zero idea what the other two talent trees will do. Yes they are between two specs like every hero talents, however that doesnāt mean they will override core spells the same way
Many other class had reveals, and very few hero talents just change a basic core spell. No reason to believe the other mage hero trees will all do the same thing
With a fire mage, I think I like most of it except for the meteor part.
We finally got Frostfire Bolts back.
But you can shatter the meteor
Im disciple of Aquariusās Kamus. I simply just canĀ“t do fire spellsā¦ Ā¬Ā¬
Nice shoulders lol
Arcane Frost would have been cool too.
Iāve never been a fan of Living Bomb.
Excessive Frost: It would have been more fun to have it call down a blizzard or have the target intombed in ice taking extra damage.
Thatās spellslinger no?
For all we know, itās literally a tree that gives you a sling shot.
I believe in the Arcane Laser
I believe!
I want an Arcane Nerf Gun!