This is true for sure. They should start with that, especially since balancing is so hard after their poor design made it that way.
This last post was from Kaivax in April 2019. And it was a good one. Too bad they didnât keep up with this. Regular monitoring and tuning of epic BGs helped maintain what made them fun.
Cry me a river? Charming you specifically know about being able to turn the flags from a bunker from the ground, not being visible. Go troll elsewhere Im sincerely trying to point out exploits here.
Because people are tired of the results of complaints being ignored. Its a paid service, you have to maintain.
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Ya, for a paid service the âserviceâ has been pretty crappy for casual PvPâers relative to other areas of the gameâŚ
- Blue-posts are few and far in between, pretty scarce
- no new BGs/no new content since 2018 (âŚa stark contrast with rated PvP, which gets fresh/new arena maps every single expansion)
- various bugs/glitches/exploits persist even after years of people mentioning them in threads like this one, for example: vehicles are still capable of being healed (which makes NO sense!
) by multiple healer specs in 2023 - ongoing imbalance/map issues in epic battlegrounds⌠which have already been discussed ad nauseum in this thread and other random complain threads that pop up here and there on the front-page
- and so on and so on
Itâs like, in other multiplayer games they usually hotfix problems/imbalances within the same month - not years in between like what weâve been seeing here with casual PvP. I donât know what the deal is, lol
Maybe the original Blue (âPhalanxâ) that started this thread got laid off along the way?? Perhaps he was the only dev dedicated to tending to casual PvP? We can only speculate as to what happened, I dunno
My best guess would be the dude got laid off at some point along the way (since there was a round of layoffs in 2020/2021⌠I think), and perhaps the job of keeping an eye on casual PvP stuff simply got âoffloadedâ onto other random devs⌠and it ended up âon the backburnerâ since those other devs are obviously focusing on their main assigned area (PvE, M+, collecting, story, etc) and PvP is an afterthought to them
I think you nailed it Warzug. We used to have quite a bit of âBlueâ interaction, even in game. I Think those days are long gone!
Crazy how epic BGs are really popular yet Blizzard leaves it untouched.
I get so many epic bg queues
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Idk about that
I usually que into like the same general group of people over and over.
probably many reasons why epic bgs do not attract more players some among them being
- little to 0 rewards
- terrible design based around 1 fight which is usually decided by the sheer amount of fire mage balance druid mw monk and holy priest you have on the team
- most melee being completely useless in 3/4 of them
- people with bad pcs from what iâve heard cant handle everything happening
- so much aoe cc spam i almost glitch through the floor cause of it sometimes
- Premades trying way to hard in a casual bracket and some of them going out of their way to make it as terrible as possible.
People underestimate point 6 and how big of a detriment it has on new blood there is a reason why other pvp games have something like mmr even in unranked content so that smurfs and the like donât just sit there all day and grief all day.
But in wow twinks and party syncers run the low level brackets and premades the max level bracket and iâve seen firsthand people who have no sunk cost fallacy already long engrained in the game just straight up stop playing when they que and get ran over by sweats who have infinitely more game knowledge and time on the game than they do who have no business being in that bracket in the first place.
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levels of effort are subjective, what is casual to me is tryhard to you, and what is casual for you is not even trying at all to me. calling someone a tryhard is basically just admitting you just donât want to put in the required effort to win.
the number one reason people choose to premade is because of bad attitude pugs. people want to play with other likeminded people.
ive had pugs troll chat, throw games, and skittle the map just out of spite. you want to ban premades, but IMO it would be more effective to ban the bad attitude pugs driving people to premade.
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I dont understand what the hate is against the premades, like only Horde have them. Im against IBC and Fieldarmy every time I play. Its just part of the game. When I get burnt I just get into the community and find a premade running.
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Thats like saying people who que arena who get rolled by multi glad smurfs dropping rating in order to sell carryâs need to just buy carryâs themselves
Or people who donât have gold you tell them to just buy it.
No its a racket and the only way to stop a racket is to stop buying into it but people buying carryâs will never stop so at that point the only person who can do anything is blizzard
FIX BATTLEGROUNDS @BLIZZARD. GET RID OF THIS PRE-MADE GARBAGE FROM THE ULTRA SWEATY NECK BEARDS/BEARD-ILDAS. FIX IOC.
MAKE MORE MAPS.
STOP MAKING ALL GEAR TIME SINKS JUST TO ELONGATE THE LACK OF DEVELOPMENT HOURS ASSOCIATED WITH PVP. YOU ARE RUNNING OFF OLD AND NEW PLAYERS.
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, COMMUNICATE WITH YOUR PLAYERBASE. IGNORING US IS NOT MAKING US GO AwAy.
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You act like both sides dont run 89798324 premades, when you yourself have actually been in plenty of said premades. Ive seen you, constantly in premades. Youre in the guild RUINOUS who streams these premades 
No one is buying carries in a basic EBG or BG
Not really in their mind the sub money just goes for them to develop new content
Thats the cycle you pay them they use that money supposedly to design and ship a usually half broken lets call it what it is dlc package and then they rinse and repeat the process.
There is always something gamebreaking that goes completely ignored for months like the fact a aug evoker is basically required in any key past 20 and has been since the start of 10.2 and not one thing has changed about that fact.
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to me that says we need more specs like Aug.
Right? Ideally every spec would feel solid on itâs own, âbring everyone upâ rather than âbring down one or two overperformersâ
Props to the thread necroer. Iâve been spamming BG chat that there have been changes to vehicle vs. player damage in IoC all day. Just came back to this thread and realized I was bamboozled. You got me, well played.
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i agree . They need to punish those q sync into epics .
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How AOTC like carry sellers should be handle, in your opinion?