Fear of 20 mans and smaller servers

A guildmate made a good point in a discussion. He feared 20 mans could kill our smaller server on Chaos Bolt.

I am not sure we have the population to sustain much more than 10 mans. It can be hard to find dps and healers at times to fill empty slots.

Is there a contingency plan for how this could play out?

Recruit more players? Merge with another guild? So many options…

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“By our raid groups combined!”

(Chaos Bolt has about as many people as US West PvP in Era, and they’re running 40mans.)

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We shall see. I hope its possible. You can just see the trend though. You can see it by the items on the AH every day as they keep going down.

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20/40 mans are going to kill SoD, period.

It’s a shame Blizzard are so stubborn and can’t see this, and just want to cater for the vocal minority.

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Make a game dying post please.

Can’t kill whats already bleeding out. Gnomer 10 man and bad burst meta PvP basically shot SoD phase 2 in the foot.

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If Gnomer was 20man, it’d be even worse.

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Actually looking forward to 20 man raids.

Yeah we’ll need to recruit a bit more as we’re a bit short on 2 10 mans, but I’d like to not bench 3 people every raid due to the 10 man limit.

Part of the reason Gnomer is a struggle for pugs is because its 10 man. If 2 people suck at mechs the raid becomes incredibly hard for other folks. Thus why 10 man is counter thetical to Classic and if retail was doing well people wouldnt be swarming to this mid version of the game.

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you would have to reroll since you can’t transfer. That isn’t happening for many. Give up your dream of being a GM and merge into a larger guild. There are plenty of people.

Nah. Gnomer isn’t hard anyway, but you still can’t carry people through most mechanic checks when there’s 20. If someone’s bad, they’ll still get knocked off the platform by crowd pummeler, stand in clouds, not run in on mech spider, dps the sheep when it’s reflecting etc

This makes no sense lmao. We have years of data showing why 40 mans are super casual. (its cause you can carry 20 gray parsers)
The entirety of the gnomer pug problem would be removed if the button cooldown was stripped down 15 seconds to allow 2 ranged to carry the entire mechanic.

Ok…?

Got it we’re just poopie monkey talking

We just built a 2nd team once we saw them announcement. Trying to get everyone to know each other so once the 20 mans hit we are on the same page. Use the time now to grow/recruit.

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Been trying. Its actually been a bit tough.

Yea it can be :frowning: