Remoreseless Winter and MotFW are now baseline and more! Basically getting 2-3 more pts to spend depending if you take Fatal Fixation.
Still would like to see Glacial Advance work with Ice Cap and Cold-Blooded Rage.
Remoreseless Winter and MotFW are now baseline and more! Basically getting 2-3 more pts to spend depending if you take Fatal Fixation.
Still would like to see Glacial Advance work with Ice Cap and Cold-Blooded Rage.
- DEATH KNIGHT
- Frost
- Remorseless Winter has been removed from the talent tree and now learned at level 19.
- Might of the Frozen Wastes has been removed from the talent tree and now learned at level 25.
- Frostreaper has been removed from the talent tree and now learned at level 28.
- New Talent: Fatal Fixation â Killing Machine can stack up to 1 additional time. Replaces Frostreaper on the talent tree.
- Biting Cold has moved to Remorseless Winterâs old position in the Frost specialization tree.
- Everfrost has moved to Biting Coldâs old position in the Frost specialization tree.
- Obliteration now causes Soul Reaper to also grant Killing Machine and have a chance to generate a Rune during Pillar of Frost
- Developersâ note: Frost will be seeing a few updates to their tree in 10.0.7. Currently Frost feels 1 or 2 points off from being able to make more meaningful choices within their spec tree. To help ease some of this we are shifting a few talents to be auto-learned on level up and replacing them with a new or existing talent. The new version of the tree should offer a little more variety and feel less linear when allocating your talent points and give you more choice based on the content you are running.
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Currently Frost feels 1 or 2 points off from being able to make more meaningful choices within their spec tree.
Gee, I wonder why.
Letâs FREAKING GO THOUGH. KM STACKS.
We are literally saved these changes are so good i literally dont even know where to start
You can start by celebrating that your idea for KM getting stacks is coming true!
Along with Soul Reaper giving you KM procs like you also wanted.
I bet you are a very happy frozen gladiator right now, Chillpills.
im thrilled you actually have no idea, This is such a superior way of buffing FDK without just bandaid fixing damage onto buttons
Soulreaper isnt a rotational hinderance for virtually no reward anymore
KM overlap causing a loss of dps is almost impossible now, Youâll almost never see it occur again and when it does it wont be as significant as before. You also now can store killing machines during downtime from kiting, or being cced, or having to do mechanics
No more talent point waste just from existing as a 2h player
Might of the Frozen Wastes - Wielding a two-handed weapon increases Obliterate damage by 30%, and your auto attack critical strikes always grant Killing Machine.
Category changed from Talents to Specialization
Seems blizzard agreed with the majority of 2H users. Thank you, Blizzard. MoTFW being a talent never made sense, and Iâm glad this change is now in place.
On top of that, these changes are amazing and I hope this ushers in a new era of 2H users being able to enjoy the Frost spec as well as BOS users.
Fatal Fixation - Killing Machine can stack up to 1 additional time - Finally
Mmm now I can freely switch between Unholy and Frost with 2H being baseline.
This makes me want to pick up DK. I can switch between all specs with a 2h now.
Man, these changes are so good. Iâm already feeling good with the buffs we got this week, this are amazing news, Iâm hyped man.
I was really hoping for a bit more survivability for frost in pvp, more damage is cool but having to kite sucks
Honestly, with how changes for FDK were dead in the water for 230+ days, I will take these wonderful changes with pride.
Perhaps with these changes FDK will finally not feel like a handicap in M+ and can actually compete in terms of damage output.
Are they removing SMF and putting it baseline?
MotFW and Frostreaper baseline
Kelliste is in shambles right now. Guarantee it.
Thrilled about these changes! Are they already up on the ptr?
I think itâs good the get these changes but letâs not get too excited and oversell the amount of improvement or we will get nerfs like they did the deathstrike. I think these changes are needed to bring us to level at least in the PvP context. Blizzard looks to be continuing to be receptive of community feedback!!
Oh yeah im shaking in the corner!
Dude you really need to get me out of your head. You are like a jaded ex at this point.
The only thing is Frostreaper isnt baseline
While it might say you learn it automatically at 28, you still need Killing Machine so it should just be baked into KM. Even in the datamined changes Killing Machine says that it makes your next Obliterate Frost damage and a crit.
Good step in the right direction quality of life changes for Frost. Happy to see it.
10.07 is looking like DKâs turn for attention.
I wouldnât know. I donât follow the development of the Warrior class and I donât play one. The point is that MoTFW was inherent to the spec in SL when they reintroduced 2H to frost. It was given to 2H as our â2nd rune forgeâ because 2H was lacking behind DW and blizzards goal was to bring parity to the two subspecs. Apparently Blizzard agrees that it should still be inherent to the spec along with many other talents that should be baked in.
Doing a direct comparison to another class is not what myself or many others are concerned with. But if I had to take a shot at responding you, I would simply say: look at what Blizzard just did. Itâs not a bridge too far to pause and think that maybe they will make many other talents baseline again when and where it makes sense for other classes as well.
If MotFW never made sense as a talent then the same thing can be said for SMF is all.
Maybe you should post that in the Warrior forum then?