Um huh? wasn’t talking about that here, and i think I answered that already in this thread.
I’m talking about both because how I’m understanding “Squelching” and “Silence” applies to both.
OK, the definition of “silence” (not the Blizz punishment, squelching or no) is “the absence of sound”. In this case, “the absence of one’s speech (words)” (because words are either spoken, sound or typed/wtitten, read). It’s the absence of reading speech. Which is an inability to either make a Forum Post and / or utilize a Chat Channel. Which, in of itself is a SILENCE (I’m not talking about the Blizz punishment).
But that’s not my issue. My issue is Squelching STILL performs a SILENCING. Now, is that automated or performed by a GM?
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Pretty sure they don’t, just getting chat squelched should not effect anything past chat, now if you got silenced i dunno, it would depend on what happened,
If you get forum banned you can still talk in game, would imagine the reverse would be true.
Squelching only refers to in game, Silence as a penalty can be applied to both.
Like I said I am pretty sure they are not connected, none of the support articles indicate you also lose forum privileges if you are silenced in game.
The squelch that occurs with enough reports is automated as I said a couple of times already,lol
I don’t know exactly how the report to squelch system works but here’s a Blizzard post on it:
I don’t know if it’s simply a throw x number of reports at someone and they get squelched, there has to be more to it, otherwise streamers would be permanently squelched.
It is a certain number of reports but those who have been found to been targeted unfairly (i.e. streamers) will sometimes get some form of note put on their account that can prevent an auto-squelch. It happens with certain guilds that have been the target of harassment on live.
Again, I’m not talking about if I get Squelched, Silenced, Suspended, Banned, etc., in the Game (or on the Forums) and it coinciding with my Forum rights (or in Game Rights).
I’m talking about the Auto-Silence (Squelching) vs Silence (Punishment) working similarly, on BOTH Platforms. Although the Blizzard Agreement classifies ALL of its products via the Forums and their Games, as ONE Platform. Meaning, the Account, as a whole, is affected via BOTH Forums and Games.
Now, even if they are NOT connected, as one, the Squelching, Silencing, Suspending, Banning, etc., ALL act the same. Whether you’re in the Game or on the Forums.
But you just said, earlier:
This was in response, to my post which reads:
I was talking about my inability to Post on the Forums, not the Game (I was very clear about this), and you responded with “you were auto squelched”.
But now you’re saying “‘Squelching’ only applies to ‘in-game’”. Even if it’s an “in-game” terminology, what does “Squelching” do? It SILENCES, right?
Great, we’ve established Squelching is automated and NOT reviewed by a GM. And if Squelching performs an “Auto-Silence”, than my initial post, that reads:
Is still sort of correct. I’m wrong about “when the Appeal Fails”.
I’m actually kind of surprised by the strong negative response to right-click reporting. It seems like it’s essentially a community tool to escalate reports quickly when they need to be. People always preach about how classic communities policed themselves and blacklisted/shamed as needed. Isn’t this another tool to let the classic community do just that? If I ignore someone and right click report them, and 20 other people do too because they’re being racist or whatever, it’s actually better than all of us just ignoring him. A crap ton of reports on a single person will get escalated for gm review, which is what people wanted. Instead of a gm having to review a handful of tickets one by one, they’ll review the situation as a whole, which is good for blizzard and good for policing racists etc. (This whole paragraph assumes using it as intended, see below for potential for it to be abused)
I think people saying it will be abused are really over estimating how much people care. I can’t find any major threads on the general discussion side of the forums about how getting a targeted auto-squelch is ruining the game. There’s some feedback showing that most people who claim they’re getting squelched for no reason really do have a reason: it’s because they’re being an a-hole. I guess what i’m saying is yeah I get that the potential to temporarily make people unable to post in general chats will technically be there, but it looks like it doesn’t get rampantly abused to troll people in live, why would it in classic?
If it’s currently the system in place, and it’s currently not something that is devastating to the retail game, why would it be terrible for the classic community? I tend to skew #nochanges, but this seems more in line with battlenet access and modern security than anything major in-game.
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The word squelch is used to keep the automatic action separate from the GM action. A squelch is also a short-term (temporary) action whereas the GM silence is a longer action.
I’ve said the same thing. Trolls can barely agree with each other as it is. There’s rarely ever enough people to care when actionable stuff is done that it’s going to be rare just to make false reports that agree.
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Is it any wonder that someone with kind of attitude wants to be able to collude with friends and guild mates to try to avoid the consequences of their behavior?
Mate, if the rest of the Vanilla crowd are like you, then i will never touch classic.
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I thought so, but the way Studmuffyn replied to me, had me all confused, when he stated:
Making it seem like “Squelching” doesn’t silence. Hence, my confusion.
IMO, that would make Classic a much better game.
It does but, to avoid confusion, people reserve “silence” to mean the actual GM punishment.
The squelch may as well be a silence, with the extremely limited ability to communicate it leaves the squelched player.
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I understand that, but it sure as heck still confused me because Squelching is STILL SILENCING AND it’s automated.
EDIT: And I’m correct, that “Squelching” is slang for “Auto-Silence”.
EDIT 2: And that’s when Studmuffyn, told me “no”, hence my confusion.
So, was I auto “silenced” (unable to interact with others through Chat, including Forums), or a Human GM just saw X amount of Reports, against me and “(auto-)silenced” my account and “unsilenced” it, when I Appealed?
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh…now I see what your issue is . You got silenced.
Surprise…surprise…
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Looking at yours and his posts, he’s trying to differentiate between the actually long term punishment called a silence and the short term automated system squelch.
He didn’t do a good job at explaining that to someone who’s not familiar with the system but that’s what I’m seeing.
You mean AUTO-Silenced 'cause I always win my appeals because I’m not actually breaking the rules, as much as you (and others like you) INTERPRET me and / or others of doing.
Surprise, surprise
/rollseyes
Yes, I agree. I’ve already acknowledged that, LOL
No one is complaining about rt click reporting. The issue is with retail’s current automatic silence system where you can lose the ability to communicate in game without any active action from a Blizzard employee, but rather because a group of people decided to report you whether the action is actually warranted or not.
Right click reporting is, although not vanilla, something people are reasonably ok with, Mob rule silencing players is not.
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Is this capped?
Just checking, people are acting like they can’t post in this thread.
No, not yet but it probably will be soon and people aren’t happy that there isn’t a lot of people agreeing that the sky is falling.
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