Ever think the gold sellers could be involved in that discord and give people they want a favorable rating
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Getting, or moving, illicit gold is a punishable offense though and that is what you were penalized for.
Donât engage in activities that put you at risk for that, if you want to avoid it. Blizzard wonât protect you from bad decisions you make, if you decide to engage with a gold seller. When Blizz does their detection routines, you will get swept up.
I realize you might prefer real time detection and that they stop it as it happens, but right now they donât have that sort of capability enacted.
Again, you did not get suspended for swapping gold. You got suspended for receiving illicit gold directly from a gold seller/illicit account. Two very different things.
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Unfortunately, there are plenty of less than honest folks out there who would still do it - no matter that itâs against the rules. Just like GDKPs. Theyâre still being run, despite the rules.
I absolutely agree, for what itâs worth, that it should be against the rules. If something isnât facilitated by Blizzard, it shouldnât be done. If they wanted folks to swap gold across the games, they would make an optional path to doing it safely. At this time, theyâve opted to keep it in that grey area of âUnsupported Transactions,â much like boosting, carries and leveling services. Itâs all done at your own risk.
I am sorry youâve found yourself in this spot, and again Iâll say good luck to you.
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You canât blanket my decision to swap gold as a âbadâ decision when it essentially comes down to luck at this point. I made an informed decision based off my own careful research and took the necessary precautions for this decision. I followed the rules and got âunluckyâ because I guess I happened to trade someone who received their gold from illicit sources. Iâm willing to bet my life savings that every person in this thread has touched gold that has been illicitly earned and not gotten penalized for it. Itâs just the nature of online games. IF I was REALLY at fault, I wouldnât be here trying to defend my life for the account that Iâve had for 15+ years.
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At the end of the day you will just have keep apealing and dont back door gold buying if blizzard wanted a legit way to do it they would allow tokens to be bought and sold. This kinda thing is a multi bilion dollar black market industry and no thats not a typo. Were also going in circles here as anything said here matter zilch in a apeal.
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Just by the by: You posting here wonât have any impact on the appeal or appeal teamâs thoughts. Whatever you want to say in defend of this is rather moot. More so when youâre being told why itâs unsupported and doing anything with it can and will have account actions apply to the account if thereâs a clear pattern for Blizzard to action said account.
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Can you please tell me the amount of gold that was illicitly traded? Iâm fine with the illicit gold being taken away from my account - I can always earn more gold legitimately as I always have. But why keep me suspended? Why no warning? It would be so much more refreshing to see a message saying âhey we took this gold away because it was earned illicitly but we see your trades logs and that you swapped for it, be careful who you trade.â
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To what end? You, whether or not you want to believe it, participated in illicit gold transfer.
The reason transferring gold is unsupported and not âagainst the rulesâ, is that I can personally use friends or family to move clean gold around. Itâs not against the rules for me to give my wife gold on another server etc.
But if you choose to trust some random stranger that swears that their gold is clean, thatâs a huge risk you take.
If you wish to appeal it again, then do so. But the forums are not a way to appeal nor is it a means to fight for your account.
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Not careful enough! You got lucky enough to trade gold from a not so legit source! There is no power on earth that would make me try something like this, Just not very safe. The other party might never send the gold they agreed to and then you would have no recourse.
In this case you got suspended and when you get back on your account the gold they sent you will be gone. Why because it was stolen from a player just like yourself. You made a choice to try this and you got burned. You made a mistake and now you have to deal with the outcome. I know you do not like it but maybe you will learn from this.
Try this again and I bed the suspension would turn into a perma ban
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I am going to quote this again. I think you missed it. You bought directly from a gold seller. Not from someone who was passing it through.
You are VERY lucky it was only a Suspension.
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I did not BUY gold so please do not say that. And again, how am I supposed to know this? Its just a never ending loop of you may or may not get banned because its a shot in the dark. You donât go to a restaurant and think the chef is going to poison your food do you?
You did not go to a restaurant or a legit store though. In your example the restaurant would be Blizzard. You went somewhere else to a third party Discord server. That is where you made a deal to get gold.
You got gold directly from a gold seller/illicit account. From Blizzardâs end your account directly received illicit gold from a source account. Period. From their records they ONLY see that you got it. Not your Discord conversation. None of that counts.
Again, you are very lucky you did not get more than a Suspension. Closing accounts for directly receiving purchased/illicit gold used to be standard.
I realize this is all very very distressing, and maybe you did not intend to do it. There is nothing more you can do right now though besides learn a very tough lesson.
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You donât, unless youâre being coy of course.
But - now you know. This is an unsupported transaction, completely at your own risk.
You can keep trying to throw real-world scenarioâs around - itâs not going to help you.
This is Blizzardâs game. Their rules. They decide the punishment.
Honestly, you got off lightly, irrespective of being âignorantâ or not.
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Does not matter! On blizzards end it looks like you purchased gold. If you did do that or did not does not matter.
Only thing you can do at this point is wait out your suspension and move on. Stay away from gold swaps. Unless you want to get a Perma ban.
Fyi there have been a bunch of people who have posted here about this same situation. So it seems the gold sellers have injected themselves into this trading discord.
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Mirasol gave the first real-world scenario, Iâm defending my point with them. There is absolutely nothing you can do or say that is going to change my mind. Take the gold, I understand NOW that itâs dirty. But lift the suspension based on the sentiment of my true intentions - donât keep me suspended for what an automated system flags for. I truly donât believe I deserved to be suspended.
Yeah, that is my guess as well. They are in that discord, using lies and fraud to convince people they are legit. It also means they get away with someoneâs legit gold they traded with. Clean gold so to speak.
The flags on your account were checked multiple times, including by Orlyia here in this thread. The flag is correct. Your account dealt directly with an illicit gold seller account. It does not matter what your intent was. That is not something Blizzard sees or takes into consideration. Either the account engaged in the illicit trade, or it did not. Your account did. Hence the penalty.
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Dispella,
You are attempting to debate the account action here. We see that alot. Your only option re: the account action is to appeal until they say no more. Given what Orlyia said, though, it was probably pretty obvious on the backend, and so an overturn is probably not likely. But, again, that is your only option.
If you continue the debate in this thread, it will end up closed. That statement is based on numerous past examples.
If you have a suggestion for the game devâs there are places you can submit those. You can also start a thread in SoD, which they are watching for feedback. But there have been many of these there and so Iâm not certain it brings anything new.
Good luck.
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Thing about punishments is - you donât get to chose the penalty.
Of course thatâs how you feel.
Doesnât matter if it was an automatic flag or not.
Now do you understand âunsupportedâ and âcompletely at your own riskâ of such transactions?
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Please find me a post on or prior to Feb. 8, 2024 saying that this action is âunsupportedâ and âcompletely at your own riskâ while also being attached to something along the lines of account penalties/closures. I read through the provided in-game policies and terms of use that the âtemplatedâ GM gave me and see nothing regarding making these âunsupported and at your own riskâ trades. Only about âgaining an advantageâ which if thoroughly investigated would show that I never gained any advantage.
Nah - not going to do your work for you champ but Iâm sure Blizzard forum rep will step in again.
Ever stop to think why the âtransfer groupsâ insist on using a 3rd party program for communication while claiming itâs safe?
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