Faction War

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Wanted to get a feeling for this in 2025. Anyone else wondering if and when the faction war will come back? Kind of take the war out of warcraft. I get the villains and enemies the world faces, but that was always there. Just a thought

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I don’t think it will honestly. The story/game has sadly moved past that it seems.

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It died with BFA, and we buried it face down with Shadowlands and “cosmology” and robots with nipples and giga mega ultra existential threats.

Faction war wasn’t inherently bad, but it draws out a special sort of stupid from the playerbase where you’ve got those special people simultaneously crying about Camp Taurajo while insisting that we need another burnt World Tree, a few more Paths of Glory, Brennadam, and another mana bomb on Theramore.

I suppose I’m at peace with it being dead. But it would’ve been nice if we didn’t mangle the lore so hard.

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Think they all but confirmed there will be more faction stuff in the future, just not sure when or what it’ll look like

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I sincerely never cried about Camp Taurajo, I used it as motivation in PvP.

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Now, it’s feet.

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I’d honestly be more horrified if the creature puppeteering the elf corpse didn’t have feet.

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In the campaign the leaders of the Alliance and Horde note how fragile the peace between them is and thats why it took so long to get back to the isle of dorn so maybe there’s going to be some influential splinter groups going forward?

Take your bets everyone! Is the Warsong going to chop down more trees? Will former Scarlet Crusade agitate for the destruction of the Forsaken? Tune in next time on Dragon Ball Z!

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In my opinion the faction war died with MOP,BFA,SL… Horde took too many loses and now Thrall is in charge we’re never going to war.

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it won’t.

also, this thread will devolve into pure nonsense by post 50. as all “need moar faction war” threads do.

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Thrall was raised to be a human.

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Despite what people say I don’t think the faction is tired or played out. There’s tons of interesting stories or character drama you can get out of the concept.

However I think it’s clear that you can’t write a story like that for a game when the players see themselves as ideologically aligned with either faction. When there’s a good guys and edgelord faction like in Star Wars The Old Republic, arguements over right and wrong are meaningless. When you try to make both sides of a war “the good guys” you may get a poignant take on the futility of armed conflict but your also get a seedbed of toxicity that never goes away.

So yeah, ditch the faction war. Good concept, doesn’t work in practice.

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In before someone manages to make it political

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It’s a strong concept when it works but for so long it was ‘enemies until we aren’t’ again and again.

I could see us going back ‘lore-wise’ with the caveat that players can still group/raid/pvp together.

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for the record, and I always say this in every “need moar faction warz” thread:

I don’t want any more Faction War because we have seen how Faction War goes with Blizzard writers.

The Horde gets assaulted with the Villain Bat and demonized. The Perfect, Noble, Honorable, Never-Does-Anything-Wrong-Ever Alliance and a small band of Horde rebels gathers outside Orgrimmar to siege it to dethrone the Mustache-Twirling Irredeemably evil Horde Faction War Villain of the moment. Horde players are given no choice or agency and are forced by the campaign to participate in the Villain Batting until it is time to Siege Orgrimmar.

Followed by a bunch of forum rp of Alliance Profile Pictures telling Horde Profile Pictures “HUR DUR YER DA BAD GUYZ WHAT YO EXPECT”

It’s the only Faction War story that Blizzard is capable of telling, and we have seen it twice already and we don’t need to see it again.

I’d rather just do away with Factions altogether and focus on World-Ending Cosmic threats for the rest of forever.

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I think it can be done again and it doesn’t need to be make Horde bad and Alliance good or the opposite. I think it can be as simple as one side can’t stand the other for territory reasons, etc. They can go back to disputing that and maybe that’ll work? Maybe like the end of Warcraft where Garona kills King Llane in order to create some kind of peace at the order of the King. That would build up the story of Alliance hating Horde for what they did, although it was a misunderstanding, and Horde hate Alliance because they don’t understand. Also, that can snowball into bigger conflicts that stems from that one idea. Even if the truth comes out, their differences and problems that would’ve arose from that would have put them at greater odds than ever before. Im ranting at this point lol but idk just ideas

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No more faction wars. Play classic for that.

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Hopefully never. It hasn’t made sense since WotLK, made even less sense after Pandaria.

Every other attempt to bring it back has been hamfisted and stupid. Let it go already. WarCraft’s main conflict hasn’t been Horde/Alliance since WarCraft 2.

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Every release from Vanilla through BFA had alliance murder quests. Conflict was everywhere in dialogue.

Now I’m taking orders from Alliance NPCs? It feels wrong and I hate it.

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