Racials are all but equal right now.
The Horde story is absolutely trash. The Alliance story may be boring also, but lets not pretend the Horde one is anything approaching “good” or even “ok”.
Horde just had content cut out…majorly…in Legion. So let us not pretend this doesn’t also happen to Horde. The Horde visibility for an entire expansion was basically zero.
Dark Iron Dwarves was a good start until they stealth nerfed it (nerfed it without announcing it) and then nerfed it again TWICE.
Right now, there is NO REASON for any guild to reroll Alliance. NONE.
Regeneratin’ is crazy broken. For them to even think about something like that tells me where they’re at as far as giving horde OP racials. Nerf DiD but let them regenerate 100% of their health in four seconds? Sure, that will cause people to reroll Alliance.
What solutions are there other than racials? If you look at the winning rate of BGs on the Alliance side, you see a decreasing percentage that will only continue to slowly slide until something is done.
I’m afraid that their next bandaid is “augmenting” the Alliance with bots and seriously think that’s a solution! They could say it helps the Alliance because the bots will be seriously powerful and at the same time reduce horde queue times.
It will only further weaken the Alliance though.
Let us also not pretend that resources/storyline aren’t made for the horde first, which leaves the Alliance to be the role of horde NPCs.
You can have a bad horde storyline but that’s still better than being reactionary to a bad storyline.
Regeneratin’ will be great in PVP but thats about it. The Kul Tiras racials I see having a much larger impact in raiding and m+.
The Alliance already has the best dps racials for about 11 of the possible 23 dps specs, while having a top 2 or 3 in about 9 others. I think only 2 or 3 specs they didn’t have a top 3 racial option.
I mean. If they made the Horde story first, by literally copying and pasting the MoP story line…is that really worth bragging about?
The Horde story is a boring rerun of yet another warchief going crazy, and yet another rebellion being planned.
The writing all around sucks. Period. For both factions. If we want to play a game of “who’s sucks more”…whatever. Not my cup of tea. I’d rather all the writing get better. Because the Horde writing is nothing to brag about.
No it’s not.
I totally agree. I’m an author. My editor would have a seizure if I tried to submit some of this stuff.
And Spicy, yes, it is. If the source that everyone is reacting to is bad, then the reaction is by definition worse.
And here comes the horde trying to maintain the status quo (not all do this, a vocal minority) Now we get to hear how the horde are just where the cool kids are and how their races are more interesting (when they are dominated by elves)
That guild that transferred alliance for a boost had no reason to transfer back except racials at that point.
Even if the racials are balanced now the damage is done. Like when Blizz gave horde blood elves in the first place to balance the population to a faction no one was playing much Alliance need a temporary scale tipper that will also need to be shut down as soon as it starts to even out.
I am not sure I would go that far. And I am not saying the Alliance story is good or that the following statement applies to the Alliance.
But I think its possible for the reaction to be better than the story. The reaction can put forth new ideas/story lines. Where the story is just a rerun.
I think they came up short here, but I feel its definitely possible for the reaction to eclipse what is being reacted to.
I mean. You are wrong. They had plenty of non racial reasons to transfer back.
Disagree. I’d change with the alliance in a heartbeat. Once again our leaders are marching towards death and our ranks are in shambles. It’s uninspiring, unimaginative, and down right repetitive. Then we have the alliance telling us how good we have it.
Please Blizzard let the alliance have the treatment they so crave
Usually no one is talking about straight up population. They’re talking about the population that participates in group content (like raid, PvP, dungeons). If you look at raid alone it is very skewed toward horde (like ~70/30).
No one is talking about the people who aren’t joining groups or alts that aren’t contributing to group content. Try again.
Where are these 70/30 stats coming from? I wish to see them so I can digest this new information
According to WoW progress current mythic raid tier (world wide i belive)
1 Ally guild in the top 20
14 in the top 100
3v3 arena above 2k rating US realms
77.5% Horde
22.5% Ally
I’d argue that the imbalance is far worse than you think and likely to trend in that direction. If you want to engage in competitive or top end content, you almost have to be horde just to have access to proper pool of players.
At this point, its beyond racial ability disparity and a full on bandwagon scenario.
If you adjust the level scale to max you see the increase in horde population . But even most of those people are playing both sides. The only people I see crying about there being an imbalance are those that tend to play alliance only.
I main this toon on horde side and a void elf hunter on alliance side. There is only a 6 ilvl difference. Does warmode affect me ? No because I only pvp in BGs and I’ve had my share of losses and wins on both sides.
Also as people have said people prefer to do PVP and end game more on horde toons for various reasons. My biggest one was I saw more raging and git gud comments from Alliance players then I ever have running horde. Now does the horde not have it’s ragers , of course it does but like I said I saw it more on alliance side.
99% accurate here.
That 1% being there’s still minor fringe benefits such as Troll’s Voodoo shuffle or Belfs being able to cleanse Zul’s mechanic. Stuff that probably wasn’t even really intended to work in such a way and could conceivably happen in the Alliance’s favor at some point.
The only other reasonable option to solve the imbalance is to make factions matter less or not at all. IE cross faction raiding. But there’s obvious a big ‘cost’ to that.
The fault in your logic is that you’ve been served poor writing for so long that you think there are only two gears to storyline; boring or crazed.
Would you choose to read a book with that level of writing? Of course not.
https://www.worldofwargraphs.com/pve-stats/races
The box for raiding currently says 76 horde and 23 for alliance, so it’s actually almost closer to 80/20.
| Faction | % (5+ boss) | % (Level 120) |
|---|---|---|
| Alliance Alliance | 23.8% | 45.2% |
| Horde Horde | 76.2% | 54.8% |
The fact that even with merc mode, horde queue times are still three times longer than Alliance queue times gives you an idea of the BG situation.
Warmode bonus gives you an idea of the Alliance PvP situation.
Both are bandaids and neither address the real problem.
I am not even sure the Troll’s Voodoo shuffle should even be mentioned. The only fight it is relevant on is Jaina. Which means the Alliance can also race change just for that specific racial (since they fight as Horde)…a racial that I bet most people did not even know existed until Method used it a couple of days ago.