Faction Class Halls

Imagine if you will. A Class Hall that focuses on the cultural differences between your fellow faction members. Imagine this being a core aspect of the new leveling experience to get players immersed into not only their races culture and class, but also pride within their faction.

  • What debates & banter would we see?
  • What cultural lore could we see expanded on?
  • Think of the small conversations one can have with other members.
  • Where would these faction specific Class Halls be located? Where would you choose for your class? It could give a good reason for folks to visit other cities and neighboring towns.

We can’t ignore the classes that some classes don’t necessarily have a cultural difference…but what if we saw tidbits of individuals talking about their circumstances? Which classes are like this in your opinion?

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Anywhere but a stupid sewer

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I would rather have fully fledged racial capitals.

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I must answer this because I would love to see a strong sense of orcish clan identity. Truthfully, while I feel like it would probably be in Durotar, I’d like to see it be in a part of Durotar that was turned into an oasis with trees and water, with a better sense of pride rather then slapped together quickly.

I’d like to see who is the leader of each clan right now, how traditions are being furthered, and maybe even see modern or updated versions of how orcs are expressing their heritage nowadays.

I think this would be a good chance to also talk about important figures, and maybe have stone structures in honor of Grommash and Durotan different from the ones for Grommash in Ashenvale and Durotan (which can onlybe seen if you get into the AV battleground…)

I’ll think about this more later, I have things to do but I wish to continue thinking about this.
Great concept and idea to talk about!

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  • What debates & banter would we see?
    Clear discussions about why they are in the Horde/Alliance and why they trust/distrust their faction.

  • What cultural lore could we see expanded on?

Stuff like who are the individual sub groups are and someone from that group talking about it. IE: Blood Knights, Apothecaries, shattered hand .

  • Where would these faction specific Class Halls be located? Where would you choose for your class? It could give a good reason for folks to visit other cities and neighboring towns.

I would love to see a rebuilt Brill for the Forsaken, or race specific fortresses that surround Stormwind/Orgrimmar allowing the faction capital to be cosmopolitan melting pots of faction themes and the individual racial groups having distinctive enclaves. Ideally they should have space to RP

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Oh Maker. All the priests of the Alliance in one place would be a total gas.

The night elves and the draenei would have heated arguments about the nature of Elune. The Lightforged would be on everyone’s case about not meeting their smiting quotas. The gnomes would want to wax at length about the practical implementations of the Light and the latest in First Aid techniques. The void elves would be eager to show off their powers but disinclined to talk at length about specifics, either for ego reasons or to dissuade reckless behaviour.

There is at least one human priest/ess who is well-meaning and earnest in their faith but completely out of their depth when it comes to larger theological conversations. They are observing a few people engaged in such a conversation & one of their flavour quotes is a reference to that “I don’t even know what that means but I love it” meme.

The dwarves, Kul Tirans, worgen, & pandaren are generally chilling in a lounge set apart from a more traditional spiritual space. There are discussions about brewing (of tea and ale) and there’d be funny little anecdotes about what happens when the religiously inclined get a little bit (or a lot) tipsy.

I’d love for them to explore the dark side of the moon Elune; there is so much lore about the kaldorei and the shadows, but so much of what we think of as shadow magic is portrayed either as negative or Void-related.

I don’t know where they’d meet. Cathedral Square in Stormwind seems too obvious & they probably couldn’t kick the Horde out of Netherlight without raising a fuss. Building an interfaith venue somewhere in Duskwood is an idea: you’ve got Legion taint in Darkshire, a moonwell in Twilight Grove, a zone aesthetic the void and shadow practitioners would love, worgen & humans already have lore in the zone. Maybe the gnomes and the dwarves could build a tram extension. I don’t know.

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The issue with my main class, Warrior, is that the warrior cultures and traditions of each racial group in the Alliance have hardly been developed or dwelled upon since the early days of Warcraft. What I’d like to get out of this faction warrior hall is something that finally delves into what it means to be a warrior. What separates a soldier from a warrior? Sure there is an army, but that army is made up of soldiers. Military career men. Can a soldier be a warrior? Certainly. But what separates a common man with a sword and board from the seasoned fighters that can call themselves a true warrior?

Unlike the Horde, which is heavy with warrior cultures and conversations of honor, there is very little of that within the Alliance. To better expand the warrior ways within the Alliance races would be excellent. I think warriors are one of the least understood classes in the game, for quite a few reasons, but mostly due to the lack of understanding on what makes a warrior so strong? How do they stand toe to toe with divine heroes, fel fighters, and juggernauts of death and destruction?

Ideally, I’d see Humans getting back to the discussion of Arathor. The early days of humanity was a humanity bound together by the way of the blade, men with swords struggling together to survive. Thoradin, Lordain, and Ignaeus were warriors and leaders. They had no magic. They had no Light. They were merely men brought together with determination and will, and their fight managed to cobble together one of the most fearsome forces in Azerothian history. Humanity’s beginning was founded on the shoulders of barbarian warrior lords. What does this mean to modern man? Does it mean anything? Are they trying to reclaim their lost heritage? Divorce the warrior legacy of mankind from the Light?

This too extends to the dwarves and their mountain kings. We see that dwarves have gotten fairly titanic with their ways, both in their Warrior and Light-wielding worlds, and I wonder if the death of the Titans has finally forced the dwarves down a different path. The gnomes likely follow the dwarves in this discussion.

I can see the worgen harnessing their rage to better hone their bladecraft, a rage that the kaldorei can now find themselves relating to. The worgen and kaldorei find their kinship growing closer as their ways of life begin to meld closer together. The Lightforged are not so distant with their thinking.

The draenei and void elves don’t have much to give to this, as Vindicators are very established, and Void Elves don’t have any conversation to add to anything. Stay in the corner, Void scum. (Honestly I do think the more Arathorian humans might be glaring daggers at the Velves, as the true death of Thoradin has likely become more common knowledge. Zakajz…)

I definitely like the idea that the Alliance’s warriors are seeking to define themselves better, to grasp their own codes and culture separate from the traditional norms. In their disagreement and differences, they find a united warrior order. Where before the Skyhold and the Vrykul dominated warrior discourse, the rather imperious Allegiance’s Blade has risen up.

Their hall doubles as a major military base for the Alliance, so we can finally see how the Alliance military works outside of “WE BOAT AND WE FITE IN LEGIONS”. The warrior hall is technically the whole base, but a large subsection is the true hall, where you can see the more fanatical minds getting together.

The warriors of Azeroth are empowered by willpower, determination, and might. The Alliance’s warriors are greatly strengthened by purity of will, purpose of might, and the determination to protect their homeland.

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The more I’ve thought about it since your previous post, Autai, the more I feel as if the best thing would be RACIAL class halls. And not halls so much as areas. They don’t need to be huge. But like…

I’ve convinced my wife to play WoW starting in the prepatch, when leveling is a bit more cohesive. As a new player I want her to feel like… if she rolls say a Blood Elf Paladin… I want her to know what the Blood Knights ARE. What they stand for, what powers they use, how they use them… maybe even snippets of their history. Right now it requires a wowpedia visit, and while I definitely feel as if Wowpedia is definitely excellent for added context… the basic lore of your race/class should be explored in game. Especially for new players. Playing a Blood Elf Paladin SHOULD feel thematically different to playing a Tauren Paladin. The Sunwalkers and Blood Knights are quite different and having the same class hall, the more I think about it, feels kinda weak.

With that in mind it doesn’t even need to be a class hall. It might just be a class trainer. But I want some way that race AND class “identity” can be explored, at least in the core races.

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One of my favorite little bits of NPC interaction in TBC was when I got my first Belf rogue to Hellfire and there’s this Belf who addresses you and invites you to a “proper” SinDorei outpost. It was such a Belfy vibe and I’d love more of that.

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You know it as well as I do, it’s where we belong.

I wouldn’t terribly mind if there were a bunch of low level mini-scenarios, or at least questlines, for each race/class combo that exists specifically to give some background. It’ll never happen, but would be neat.

Might be a good opportunity for them to go over the “Life” elemental that I don’t think I’ve really seen discussed in WoW. I remember from Lord of the Clans it was touched on briefly…but I swear I haven’t seen anything about it in WoW.

Would love to see more of this stuff. Especially since I don’t believe they’re doing a good job of getting players immersed in their race enough.

Yeeeeeeeessss. I love this kind of stuff! This is the filler text that I love seeing with NPCs.

I feel that they’re def. leading to this in Shadowlands. The foreshadowing is there, we just gotta see what they dish out. Hopefully it’s engaging.

insert why not both girl

For real though, I agree because they’re not doing us any favors by making Org and SW the only hub worth visiting on Azeroth. More racial hubs would be nice and having a Lorewalker area that explores your races history and culture just seems like a necessity at this point. Add that there could be tailored racial class halls and we’d be golden.

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none of this pays for daddy kotick’s golden money jacuzzi that runs only on reservoirs of fiji and evian

Nah but it’s a cool idea and sometimes they let us have cool ideas :stuck_out_tongue:

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That and it’s just good fun.