Settle this, and give me some solid evidence if you can.
In the randoms version of Eye of the Storm, what happens after you sit on a base, capture it for your team, and then LEAVE IT alone all by itself, AND the enemy team doesn’t go near it? It’s by itself. Nobody in the capture area.
Lots of players seem to think it will REMAIN in the team’s control who captured it.
Others say that the capture-slider-thing will slide back to the neutral position with nobody sitting on it.
Personally, I have sat on a base stealthed on a druid, and noticed that 1) if the base is already neutral, the bar won’t move, and 2) it seems like if the base is already captured for our team, the bar DOES move towards neutral. i.e. it acts like I’m not there when I’m stealthed. I have also ran to an empty base (that has been captured by our team but is currently empty with nobody sitting on it) and when the bar pops up, it is NOT all the way on our side, i.e. it looks like it’s moving towards neutral.
People get so worked up over this though, I’ve seen lots of fighting over it recently. So what’s the actual mechanic SUPPOSED to be? I can’t find anything online anywhere about it. Are my experiences flukes, bugs, or misinterpretations (i.e. there’s an enemy there but I didn’t see them)? I don’t know what to believe anymore.
My understanding is that stealthed doesnt count toward a cap if there’s an enemy player there at the same time.
So if youre in stealth alone, and an enemy player comes within capping range, he will begin to cap it despite you being there. You must leave stealth to prevent the node from turning.
It’s just, I swear I’ve seen it behaving like that loads of times when there ISN’T an enemy there. But alright, even if we accept that, then what about the question of what happens when NOBODY is on a base at all? Any ideas there?
As other’s mentioned…being in stealth doesn’t count toward capping or uncapping.
Capping a base and leaving it means it will stay ‘owned’ until some enemy player comes and challenges the cap and decaps it.
I suggest playing with nameplates on if you think it’s been decapped while you are there, since it’s impossible for it to be lost without players present, and it’s likely you just can’t see them.
The bar doesn’t move if there’s no player in the area,not in stealth, to move it. If you can’t cap a flag in wsg in stealth, can’t cap a graveyard in AV in stealth, you can’t cap an aoe objective in stealth either
A similar analogy is “if a tree falls in the woods with no one around, does it make a sound?” Except we know that the bar doesn’t move to neutral.
The next time you’re in an eye of the storm, cap a node by yourself (alliance, so MT for example) walk off the cap for 10 seconds, then walk back. Has it moved? 10 seconds or less is all it takes to at least make the bar move one tick when you’re on an enemy node in eots
Simple: whoever was in stealth was intelligent enough to run away and effectively hide from the DH who can see them in stealth.
Durr ya don’t say. I wanna believe you aren’t being snarky but this is the pvp forums so. fyi I haven’t started leveling/pvping this toon yet in this expansion. That’s why I specified druid in op.
I’ve never seen the bar move by itself. I’ve done more than a few bgs. Is there an addon you can use to monitor the bar without coming out of stealth and affecting it?
There actually is some rational I’ve heard which debates such a fact. It basically says that sound without a conscious observer isn’t sound, as sound is the relationship between whatever air movements exist and it’s perception as sound by a conscious perceiver (or an instrument likewise able to perceive and record sound - again existing as the relationship between air movements and phenomenon able to “perceive” aka record them). Air movements without anything to perceive them as sound, the argument goes, go unheard and thus make no sound.
The wikipedia page on “If a tree falls in a forest - Wikipedia”
Covers this much more in depth if you are curious.
Sound is a vibration that travels via some transmission medium. This is elementary physics. The perception of sound is physiology, philosophy, and psychology. It doesn’t matter if someone hears it, the sound is created and exists regardless. Sound is also not only auditory. A simple example of this if you stand in front of a large speaker and put on soundproof headphones (or if you are deaf). You will feel those sound waves hit you.
Ah right.
“lol bro sound isn’t real unless you personally hear it!” is very progressive science.
Like I said, I’m rooting for you and that nobel prize. Good luck.
There is nothing in quantum physics which refutes the explanation of sound traveling as a vibration. In fact, the phonons themselves (the individual particles of sound) are literally vibrational energy.