Extra hair colours for Voidelf

[Somand-proudmoore]

@Soulebreaker-hyjal

These threads get locked anyway.

It used to be because they would hit cap. Those were the days.

Now people just keep pumping out new ones, despite others currently existing.

[Peppatrix-wyrmrest-accord]

@Rhielle-sentinels

Where did OP say Helfs or Belfs? I see asking for more colors. You do realize that could include more shades of purple, blue, black, and other darker colors to fit the tentacle colorations, yes? Literally nowhere did the OP say they wanted Belf hair.

The implication was there.
Very few times have I seen the request for cod elf options focused on void elf themselves. It’s always followed by the colors that blood elves have.
I mean even the last update for them have them skin like a blood elf.
It always comes back to the alliance wanting high elves.

[Shadina-gorefiend (Shadina)]

@Zucchininee-emerald-dream

Like I said, nowhere in lore or otherwise is it stated that void elves are strictly blue, nor do I think faction identity is affected by void elves having neutral options.

In WoW, races are defined by aesthetics, and not much else. HMT are different than regular tauren. Why? Antlers instead of horns. LFD are different than draenei. Why? Lighter skin and some tattoos / eye color changes.

Adding more ‘neutral’ options and giving void elves blood elf options completely dilutes faction identity. Just like if the nightborne had received the same stances / customization options as night elves would have. And as I said earlier, I would be much less annoyed, and much more open if something so small as a minor model edit had happened. But it didn’t.

We’ll have to agree to disagree, and move on. I cannot see eye to eye with you on this subject.

[Rhielle-sentinels (Rhielle)]

@Soulebreaker-hyjal

Both sides were acting pretty toxic back and forth.

And yet the OP never asked for Helf or Belf colors. It went downhill the moment people who hate Helfs jumped in.

@Peppatrix-wyrmrest-accord

The implication was there.

No. It wasn’t. I want more hair colors for them, too. Am I suddenly a Helf fan now? Nope.

[Lannisterian-tichondrius]

@Rhielle-sentinels

Where did OP say Helfs or Belfs?

@Lannisterian-tichondrius

Even if you put Kul Tiran options on a VE it effects BEs.

My original reply was to someone using the OP asking for more natural hair options because as you pointed out the OP left it very open ended.

I would say you’re right in terms of a broad umbrella but I wouldn’t disagree for instance if you said you wanted

@Rhielle-sentinels

more shades of purple, blue, black, and other darker colors to fit the tentacle colorations,

This I support anytime I see it in peoples posts

[Soulebreaker-hyjal]

They don’t have to. After so many veiled threads, anyone can guess what this is about.

[Lannisterian-tichondrius]

Leaving it open ended I would say is thinly veiled yeah, but even ignoring that because its open ended and people have come in to ask for options people oppose, opposition to those options mentioned are still on topic.

[Rhielle-sentinels (Rhielle)]

@Soulebreaker-hyjal

After so many veiled threads, anyone can guess what this is about.

I love how this forum just jumps on people without asking for details first.

shakes head

I’m out.

[Somand-proudmoore]

@Lannisterian-tichondrius

opposition to those options mentioned are still on topic.

This.

Based on the OP, literally anything to do with void elf hair colours is on topic.

[Zucchininee-emerald-dream]

@Lannisterian-tichondrius

My original reply was to someone using the OP asking for more natural hair options because as you pointed out the OP left it very open ended.

This is a flat out lie, you began by spewing your “visual theme” shenanigans before anyone even mentioned natural hair colors.

[Peppatrix-wyrmrest-accord]

@Zucchininee-emerald-dream

the void elf identity doesn’t revolve around blue skin. Like I said, nowhere in lore or otherwise is it stated that void elves are strictly blue, nor do I think faction identity is affected by void elves having neutral options.

What? Are you kidding me right now?
What is a void elf without void?
Of course it’s their identity, or they’d be blood elves.
Holy crow.
Who gives a turkey about faction identity? It’s racial identity in this case.
If they remove factions, this whole debate goes away. You’ll have blood elves in the alliance cities.
So this is purely racial identity. Void elves should be void, period.
The concept of neutral looks in this case does nothing except pull away from blood elves, as they are the only other source of racial identity for these particular elves.

Just unreal.

[Soulebreaker-hyjal]

Not jumping on them. We’ve both been around these forums a lot. I see how this goes. Suggestions for pastel hair options, Azshara like eyes, other tentaclee options get ignored.

Anyways the most important take is the classes with the least should get customizations the next round (whenever that is). Tons already play Thalassian elves. They need to make some of the other races more varied and attractive.

[Enlighten-alleria (Enlighten)]

@Lannisterian-tichondrius

Well I hope that answered that.

Also this idea they “lack” compared to core races, how many core races got or get two visual themes? And what other race gets a second visual theme at the expense of another races visual theme at that?

Yup. This thread got jumped before anyone even mentioned blood elves or high elves.

@Peppatrix-wyrmrest-accord

I completely disagree.
Is my opinion that void elves shouldn’t even exist, let alone get customization to make them “high elves”.
They belong to the Horde.
Furthermore, I’m sick of wow being only about elves. There are 4 flavors of elf for crying out loud.
There are so many other races that need upgrades before even looking at a stupid elf.

[Lannisterian-tichondrius]

@Zucchininee-emerald-dream

This is a flat out lie, you began by spewing your “visual theme” shenanigans before anyone even mentioned natural hair colors.

@Alcey-stormrage

Void Elf but they really are lacking in customization options compared to core races

@Lannisterian-tichondrius

@Alcey-stormrage

they really are lacking in customization options compared to core races.

@Astrien-emerald-dream

Void elves are an allied race, not a core race like blood elves.

Well I hope that answered that.

Also this idea they “lack” compared to core races, how many core races got or get two visual themes? And what other race gets a second visual theme at the expense of another races visual theme at that?

This was my original reply and fully applicable to what I replied to, that is not a lie nor is it some awful thing I said?

You however continually argue in bad faith for HE options / HE fans.

@Starlagosa-dentarg

Seriously she’s been harassing you, Lann.

People notice your posting style towards me and others. You’re not exactly incognito here.

@Lannisterian-tichondrius

@Zucchininee-emerald-dream

Your fake niceynicey behavior fools no one.

I take pride in being respectful despite vehemently disagreeing I don’t see the issue here.

Why would arguing in good faith respectfully bother you?

[Peppatrix-wyrmrest-accord]

@Rhielle-sentinels

It wasn’t. I want more hair colors for them, too. Am I suddenly a Helf fan now? Nope.

You are if your only request is blood elf coloring rather than sticking to the theme of a void elf.
Void elves should only have void themes if they get anything more.

[Trissaleaf-moon-guard]

Friendly Lore Reminder! If you Google “wow how blood elves become void elves.” This comes up below, which is true. You can Google other phrases and still see the article.

“Their origins lie with a group of blood elves led by Magister Umbric who were exiled from Silvermoon City because of their research into the Void. They were transformed by void ethereals but rescued by Alleria Windrunner, who had gained mastery of the Void herself on Argus.”
~Wowpedia

There’s a whole article about the history of void elves, Alleria’s journeys/adventures, and how she as well as other blood elves have been shunned and exiled. I definitely see the Blood-Elves-Shunning-Blood-Elves-Turned-Void-Elves theme going on in this thread and every thread asking for more hair colors. Thats staying true to lore, LOL.

The article is a very interesting read about Alleria and void elves. I enjoyed it again, having read it before. I suggest a read through, at least one, for everyone who hasn’t already.

For me and I’m well aware no one cares at all unless its to attack me and my I statements, I dont care about high elves. Blood elves were high elves. I care about visual appearance options for players. And of course more options for Nightborne. I really can’t suggest any options for Nightborne because my default choice is pink hair . I use pink hair on my velves. Humans should have pink hair. Thank the Light! trolls have pink hair! Worgen pink fur! But thats too far out of lore lol. (The worgen part is a JOKE in case some dont realize. I’m well aware I’ll still attacked or jumped anyways.)

Im going to visit Telogrus later on snd a few other places so I can see for myself what the Devs added to the velf NPCs.

[Soulebreaker-hyjal]

Alleria was never a Blood Elf. She was believed dead. And thought to have died a high elf. She never changed her name.

[Somand-proudmoore]

@Trissaleaf-moon-guard

Im going to visit Telogrus later on snd a few other places so I can see for myself what the Devs added to the velf NPCs.

I don’t think they’ve touched Telogrus since they made it.

Last I checked, the High Elf Wayfarers still have Death Knight eyes, even after they changed the Death Knight eyes to be more painfully obviously Lich King magic.

Edit:
Yep. Here’s a screenshot from today. They still have Death Knight eyes.

[Zucchininee-emerald-dream]

@Peppatrix-wyrmrest-accord

What? Are you kidding me right now?
What is a void elf without void?
Of course it’s their identity, or they’d be blood elves.
Holy crow.

You can still wield the void without being purple…
Does this mean that blood elves need to be dripping with blood and have red skin because of the word “blood” in their name?

We can simply disagree and move on, you’re free to feel that void elves should be strictly purple. I don’t share that feeling.

@Lannisterian-tichondrius

You however continually argue in bad faith for HE options / HE fans.

@Lannisterian-tichondrius

Why would arguing in good faith respectfully bother you?

Because you don’t argue in good faith.
You’re extremely good at being fake and pretentious though, I’ll give you that.

[Zucchininee-emerald-dream]

Also from wowpedia:

“High elves and blood elves imbued with void have transformed themselves into [void elves], under the tutelage of [Alleria Windrunner] and her teacher, [Locus-Walker], the two known mortals who were able to successfully defy the Void’s whispers and truly resist its corruption while wielding its powers. These ren’dorei, the “Children of the Void” have established a base at [Telogrus Rift], and much like Alleria herself, have re-pledged themselves to their original faction, the [Alliance].”

I seem to recall Umbric looking for a way to recruit void elves by replicating the ritual as well without destroying the high elves or blood elves involved.