Extended Queues Expected on Select Realms (Updated Aug 20)

Come to grob and enjoy the smooth experience.

So when you going to tell us the horde to alliane ratios?

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I can understand blizzard being cautious with realm pops, but I still think they are underselling the popularity of classic. What I dont understand is the realm name choices. Pitting pvp est faerlina and thalnos vs herod ( possibly the most memorable 5 man boss in vanilla for many reasons including the gear drops) and pvp pst fairbanks vs whitemane. Derp, who could have guessed this would happen.

Faerlina - PvP is now showing as Full in the realm selection screen.

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Donā€™t worry though, there are definitely enough servers, and ā€œā€œLayeringā€ā€ (Shardings weird younger brother) will fix it.

Would love to know what numbers ā€œFullā€ is. Are we talking 10,000? 50,000? 100,000?

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Thanks for the update Bornakk

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Yeah thatā€™s not gonna happen.

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Full is full. As my dad used to say. Are you writing a book? Then leave that chapter out.

:slight_smile:

How many people are on the ā€œFullā€ servers? 2,500?

More servers more servers! Maybe 4 or 5 more!

Most people do not want to be on a dead server in 6+ months. The problem is that Blizzard historically does not offer free transfers off of dead servers. So people are trying to ensure they are not on a dead server in 6+ months. Playing on a dead server is far scarier then not getting my preferred names or waiting in a queue to log in.

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How long until every server is on that list.

I think some people have the wrong idea.

Layering is being added for only ONE reasonā€¦ to prevent empty servers in a few months. Period.

Blizzard expects a certain amount of fall offā€¦ what is that expectation? Who knowsā€¦ but layering is being used so that the initial amount of players can have reasonable access to play the gameā€¦ but when it lullsā€¦ be able to ā€œfunnelā€ those players into just one layer.

It was never to guarantee everyone could play without queues.

Now Blizzard is faced with a quandry. Perhaps a server max population is 50,000 accounts having toons on it. Itā€™s likely all of them will try and log in at launch and play. If they want to try and limit each layer pair to 3000 max playersā€¦ to best simulate the maximum amount of players in the world at any given time back thenā€¦ They would have to have upwards of 18-20 worlds or 36-40 layers. This alone may a hardware limitationā€¦ then again maybe not.

Then there is the world itselfā€¦ back in Vanilla, you had max 3000 players in the world at any given timeā€¦ you may have had 50k players rolled thereā€¦ but only 3000 players concurrently.

Think of that as 3000 man hours. Only so much server progress can happen in that timeā€¦ only so much levelingā€¦ only so much guild growth, only so much materials farmed, only so much professions.

Allowing a tsunami of 50,000 players to be in the world would allow about 17 times the progression to occurā€¦ 17 times the mats available, 17 times the guild progression/contribution, etc. This would be massively detrimental to the serverā€™s timeline and longevity.

Iā€™m sure this was a consideration when discussing layering and itā€™s negative effectsā€¦ and some limitation to how many layers they were willing to add for ā€œconvenienceā€ at the cost to the server.

Clearly, they knew they could not allow 50k players on at onceā€¦ and maybe naively they thought it wouldnā€™t be an issue.

But it is.

But here is the dealā€¦ layering makes the problem betterā€¦ without undue detrimentā€¦ and is WAY better than capping each server at 3k and making a bunch of serversā€¦ then forcing transfers/merges later.

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I think the populations are going to continue to rise as we draw closer to release. There is still a good amount of ppl that arenā€™t subbing until right before since they donā€™t care that much about names. I have several friends who are subbing 8/25 to get a few things prepped.

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Thisā€¦ only about half of the people I know playing Classic subbed for name reservation. A Tsunami of players will sub day of launch.

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For god sakes man! Advocating that someone lose their livelihood over something that can be easily scaled up and in no way threatens anyone life is just childish.

Get a life!

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There are several podcast related guilds going to Pagle, not just AIE. CTR (another very large guild) is representing Ally side. From what Iā€™m seeing, we need more Horde before the Alliance take all of our fish!

Join Pagle Horde and you too can angle all day , party all night!

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I just wished Blizzard would limit the ability to create specific factions on realms when the scales are tipped too far to one side. That would have been nice. Maybe my Horde Toons were created on a server thatā€™s going to be incredible imbalanced or My alliance toon on their server. Thatā€™s going to make me a bit sad.

**Wanted to post on my more recently played toon rather than my poor level 86 sadness.

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Again, starting small and expanding is 100% the correct way to do this to ensure less server death later. Thank you for the updates.

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