Lying.
This was a horde book for horde readers that praised nelves and Elune and the night warrior.
The alliance ek book doesn’t praise horde anything.
Sad times.
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it has been like that since MOP, when was the last time our faction actually won something fair and square. Or had like a heroic moment that wasn’t against it own self.
Treng asked for praises, not victories.
Not sure what kind of praise the Horde should get after BFA. Can you think of something that should have been included in the book that is praise worthy?
One was from the Alliance PoV and the other was from Horde PoV.
Rexxar and Zekhan don’t share your hatred of Night Elves
well for one horde had plenty of reason to go to war. The alliance had attacked them multiple times, forsaken fleet, goblins miners. Both were clear signs of aggression. Beating the old blood god and saving the world(according to Ion) shoot they could make something up. The point is that book is for the horde, no need to praise other raise and make horde races inferior. None of the positive attributes of the horde are ever shown.
It is just the overall narrative with the horde. We have no strong leaders, heck our characters only get developed or get screen time so they could be villain batted.
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I am not disputing the poor state of affairs but Treng asked for praises.
Is there something Rexxar and Rokhan should have praised/taken pride in that they didn’t?
Actually the book was supposed to explore the continent of Kalimdor just as exploring EK was to explore that continent.
In EK they had Alliance character point of views and in Kalimdor they had Horde characters’ point of views.
These books were not supposed to be exclusive to any one faction. Mathias and Flynn also explored Horde territories in their travels, that was not excluded so why should Ashenvale and other Alliance lands in Kalimdor?
The biggest problem with the book was that it was still stuck in cataclysm era and the twitter crowd was mad at who was teaching who literacy.
Again there is plenty they could of done, praise Rexxar for his efforts in the war. Mention how barrens were invaded and cross roads was sieged. Add some heroic stories of them being out numbered and over coming the alliance war machine. Or they could of talked about something positive within the horde, instead of how trolls are savages and their shamans do not have a word for erosion. Again simple things.
That is all I am saying, even from horde characters point of view there is nothing positive they can write about the horde. They can’t praise their own characters or races for being heroic? Heck they can’t even show these characters looking up to any horde ideas or characters.
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I don’t know, the Alliance’s spymaster gushing about how cool a guy the blood elf leader is and the “courage, determination, and strength” of his race appealed to certain of my biases at least.
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Doesn’t he also state the powers that be of Silvermoon are secretly alliance, too?
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Well, he claims to have eyes and ears in the Silvermoon goverment
Idk I gueas I don’t see alliance praising alliance as alliance praising the horde.
It’s like when anduin praises Calia.
Oh no you don’t Treng. The blood elves are Horde, they have been so for several decades now. They are as much Horde as anyone else and clearly prove you are wrong that the Alliance did not praise the Horde in the EK book.
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Shaw spying on the Horde’s leaders through two venal courtiers (a rogue in Theron’s entourage and a mentally ill goblin in Gallywix’s) was a subplot in Shadow’s Rising. I figured his mention of spies in Silvermoon was a nod to that, or (more likely) a convenient source of info for this Alliance PoV character’s otherwise inexplicable insight into Horde-side intrigue.
Nowhere is it implied the blood elf government is Alliance, only that SI:7’s spies are embedded higher up the ladder than any goon found in Murder Row. The only one we know of is an Uncrowned mercenary who took the job to line her pockets.
Even Sylvanas spared a word to compliment our Goblin allies for making catapults that are faster and more powerful than ever before. And she does not give praise lightly.
Start with complimenting our catapults.
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Actually when the burning happened, I recall people saying “How to catapults even hit that far away? It makes no sense.” I kept bringing up the Stormheim intro quest in Legion that I think you’re referring to. Sylvanas mentions the new catapults, and their new long-range capabilities specifically, which led me to believe that the tree going up in flames was always the plan.
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It wasn’t. Metzen was completely surprised by the burning. That plot was invented after he left.
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I’ll certainly admit that they can shoot FAR further than seems logically possible.
Which is weird because A Good War said the catapults didn’t have the necessary range. I smell a retcon.
Ok so Blizzard never apologized for the racist writing in Exploring Kalimdor. But, at least Centaurs were written better, instead of asian caricatures who we have to steal oil from. The Djaradin are a Pacific Islander-based race of evil rock creatures. The Drakonid have their issues.
Just hoping Blizzard continues to learn and do better.
There’s literally nothing wrong with Exploring Kalimdor, any “racism” that you’re pulling from it is quite genuinely projection on your part.
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Are they??? They just seem like generic fantasy ‘barbarians’ to me, what about them is Polynesian?
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