Exploiting is not okay

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Yes, they are. They are using a macro to leave the party before joining the dungeon, which is an exploit

They’re certainly not allowed to.

Anyone have a 60 watt available?

Those who can - Do. Those who can’t - Twink.

Fairly common sentiment back in the old days. Not all that uncommon if you’ve been watching GD.

At least a few of their defenders have been pleasant enough to chat with. An uphill battle perhaps for them who believe they aren’t the enemy… but, at least they’re pleasant enough to talk to.

I don’t understand, they would quit during the final boss to get the xp? I thought if you quit you get teleported out instantly.

Exploiters aside, why do people hate twinks anyways?
Isn’t twinks is simply result of unbalanced scaling?

If you think and look closely, most of those lvl 11 characters is simply wearing gear, which is drops and intended for their current level. This characters is not wearing some “forbidden gear” which is available only to chosen ones!
There is nothing wrong with wearing full gear of relevant armor.

Its just rapid leveling normalizes that people often leveling up with lvl 1 item equipped and then they wonder why do they deal no damage as high level. That being said - this is how you “fix” scaling for higher level, simply increase loot-drop and people should have appropriate gear to their level.
(Its whole different talk about how higher lvl gear is differs at ~lvl 60 and ~lvl70)

On EU forums, when i see twink topic, i always say one same thing: Fix the scaling!

Its all about gear, look closely again:
Timewalking gear for lvl 11 is have 60 item level, while gear from normal dungeon is 30 ilvl. This is literally x2!
And, the higher character’s level is - the less stat/ilvl differences in this Normal to Timewalking comparisons of gear.

Most of the hate towards twinks is comes from EGO, you saw in your DPS meter addon, that someone is doing way more DMG than you in Timewalking dungeon.

But real problem is the scaling. We should ask to cure the disease, not kill the sick.

“Fixing” scaling would be a waste. Timewalking dungeons were always blown through with ease, they are trivial content. All that changed is the amount of work to get to the point of blowing through them at max speed.

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Don’t instruct people on how to bypass game mechanics and exploit.

I think complaints are largely about a L11 Twink just speed running so bloody fast that slow-moving classes (or beginners to a class that don’t know all their speed buffs) get left behind and then swarmed by mobs the Twink did not get aggro on, (which from the Twinks I’ve followed is 90% of the mobs they ran past without ever pressing any ability to get aggro. To add insult to injury, dying in a TW dungeon you don’t know well and struggling to catch-up seems likely to get you kicked even if you said nothing in chat (cuz someone thinks you’re “leeching of the grp” and few-to-none look at reasons for a vote-kick).

Dying because you couldn’t keep up and the tank didn’t get aggro isn’t the expected dungeon-leveling experience, so complaints in that situation seem pretty reasonable.

I haven’t personally had any issues keeping up or dying because I picked up aggro while running past trash the tank did nothing about, but I have sympathy for those that do have issues.

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I call BS on this. I can literally run any dungeon, especially timewalking, in about 4 minutes… 5 at the most if it’s obnoxiously long. Even if everybody sits at the start of the instance, it’s not going to slow me down, lol.

We get it, you’re a troll and making stuff up. At least make it believable.

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Ooh I see, so people have been getting perma banned for not giving Blizz 60$ to skip TWW is what I’m understanding.

It doesn’t hurt anybody but it’s funny that people are acting as though that’s not an exploit. Should be a suspension if anything though. They should make a post so people being power leveled by their friends don’t walk into trouble.

If its trivial content, that means people shouldn’t care so much.
But since that timewalking changes happen and lvl 11 twinks become popular - people love to talk about which way to play WoW is wrong, and which way is right.

I think there no trivial content, its just content.
People have right to demand a good quality product.

i’m pretty sure we hate them for good reason. They’re good for one thing. Two if you count getting banned. some people actually like going into dungeons and using their rotation and feeling like they’re part of the game. Not everybody wants to be face carried by some level 11 nerd.

Or, how about we just go the other route and say everyone deserves to be banned if they exploit?

Doesn’t matter if they are level 11 twinks, level 53 in garbage gear, or max level BiS, exploiting is bad, mmkay.

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Agree with ya

Who said they hate twinks? In every single thread qqing about them, most come to the defense of twinks and appreciate the carries they give lol.

This is a denouncing people abusing exploits for profit or just exploiting to exploit.

who cares? It’s just an arbitrary leveling block…like why did people get so worked up about it?

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