No, you can just die, release and then leave the raid. You’d be out of the zone. At least I think that’s how it’s done. That’s what the reddit video showed.
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Ah, ok. I just assumed it included Swamp of Sorrows as the given zone. Did they ever change how releasing worked during raids in Vanilla? I know corpse running was a tactic that was used in Vanilla.
Patch 1.9.0 (2006-01-03):
- The raid-lockout system has undergone a significant change. The new system will have all instances reset at a certain server time, regardless of when you were actually saved to the instance. The reset schedule is as follows:
- Molten Core: Every 7 Days, resetting during weekly maintenance.
- Blackwing Lair: Every 7 Days, resetting during weekly maintenance
- Onyxia: Every 5 Days
- Zul’Gurub: Every 3 Days
- Temple of Ahn’Qiraj (40-man): Every 7 Days, resetting during weekly maintenance
- Ruins of Ahn’Qiraj (20-man): Every 3 Days
Guys, I think we’re gonna be ok on the cascading front.
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Yeah, safe on the cascading front. But on topic here, will Blizz see the Onyxia thing as an issue? And just as well, it is unclear as to all the conditions that could be used to achieve it.
Cant take summon while in combat or dead I believe
Now that you mention it. I do remember it being like that. But I have not played in Vanilla to know if this was always the case.
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Here’s the relevant question:
Does it still work in Live?
- If not, and it was removed as an exploit, likely it won’t be possible.
- If it does, then it’ll be do-able in Classic.
Instant flag.
That is in no way an endorsement of the practice. But I’m sure that a dev describing the conditions was happily taken as a blessing by Blizzard, for their illegal servers.
Where did they say they’d remove world buffs? or that anyone from Blizzard considered world buffs to be an exploit? The only thing I’ve seen is that Blizzard has said they’ll continue to block cheats and exploits, even if they existed in Vanilla.
The Modern API is one perfect example of that. Wall Walking is another.
They actually use a legion client KEK
Apologies, I misquoted what was actually said. This was back during Blizzcon when they were talking about how they would not update things like the debuff slots and so on as they wanted to remove themselves from making decisions that were based on given limitations. So my prior point is moot.
It’s giving the conditions that are needed to be saved, it doesn’t need to be an endorsement. If you are “out of the zone” you do not meet the conditions to be saved. It’s not a bug or an exploit since they’re just following the rules set forth by the game. “Clever use of game mechanics” I believe the term is called.
They’re going to have something like that fixed quite quickly.
It is borderline on what would be defined as an exploit though. Clever use of game mechanics generally means that you are not gaining something significant from it. Exploit is when you use something to gain something. In the case of Onyxia with the dungeon save function. It would probably be considered an exploit because you are gaining something from it.
Yeah, totally agree that they’re not “fixing” game systems. But anything considered an exploit now or even back then, they do intend to fix, because exploits don’t count as authentic gameplay.
Do you think this will account for how players can obtain experience if a higher level character assists? There is supposedly a method that allows a player to obtain full experience from dungeon elites with a higher level character assisting. I am not sure if this would be defined as an exploit just as well.
Is this a Private Server discovered thing? Because I know back in the day when I would leave an alt at the entrance to Stockades to pick up gear, they’d get zero XP for it.
I heard about the whole “drop group get XP” thing, but never in a Vanilla context.
To be honest, I don’t absolutely know if it works. As far as I knew, you would not obtain full XP when a higher level character helped you. But this was during TBC which I was more familiar with. I don’t know how it functions in Classic nor Private Servers. But it was shown in some manner to function as such.
If they’re using some method for a L60 to kill mobs and give a L40 or below XP, then yes, I’d consider that an exploit. I have no idea if Blizzard would, but it goes against their intentional controls over high-low farming.