Explain to me how Ele is good in Arena, I'll wait

Pros: Lasso, Frost Shock (instant ranged Snare), Tstorm knock (sometimes)

That’s all Ele brings that’s unique as a Shaman.

Comparatively to other casters it has all the cons

Only caster without spammable CC or multiple instant CCs. Hex has a cd because curses are supposed to be hard to remove but alas, 12 specs in the game can do it fine.

ALSO, why does resto have access to voodoo mastery over Ele? Is ele not the offensive spec? Why does Resto also have earthgrab and to top it off a higher lava surge proc chance?

Only caster without baseline innate resource gain, I would never go totem mastery for just the 2% haste, I find myself using Fire Ele more for the maelstrom gain too.

Where as spriests, druids, locks, will all see various ways to get their big nukes to trickle in even while kiting or being defensive.

Speaking of which our big nuke hits for 14k in PvP, no passive maelstrom gain all for a 14k nuke. You need MotE for it to do any realistic pressure or pray for a crit.

Does elemental Fury even work in PvP?

Major gripes, ele is one of those specs that only warrant play if the damage is overtuned

Lava Burst, even with our now overtuned igneous trait (which is bound to get nerfed) only does 13k top end crits WITH SKYFURY

It just feels so gimmicky doing nothing outside of stormkeeper and Lasso

It’s not Enhance

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not saying the spec doesn’t have any problems but from reading the post, the problem here is not the spec.

did you post this to the arena forums? or just shaman forums, hoping for nothing but sympathy? what exactly in these matches are you struggling with? you complained about resource gain, yet in the same sentence state you would never go totem mastery. the talent that passively gives you resources.

have you gone through any high ranked shaman players vods? if you open up zeepeyes most recent vod, you’ll see him playing with totem mastery.

sure maybe it feels gimmicky to “do nothing” outside of SK/lasso, but you’re not the only spec sitting there in the arena building resources waiting for your cds

tldr stop complaining about what the other kids have and look at what you have (or rather, what you can do with the tools you have)

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Damn,u have purge,earth shield,grounding,tremor,earthbind,dispell,good offheal,high burst,thunder cleave,LSHamD,and other comp are good for ele shaman…damn son

just dont play 2v2, you will get steamrolled by melee, and you will be fine

i mean we have 0 mobility, and any decent form of defensives

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You are asking why you would shaman in arena?

God damn people these days. You best pop a defensive, cause im about to hit you with some knowledge.

Do you know the shamans purpose on the battlefield? That is has one secret ability only a few select shaman know about? … Hush now, for I will divulge its secrets upon you. The shaman… has a unique passive taunt that is on all the time.

This means the shaman will draw the aggro of all enemies in the area, allowing your team to fight without worrying about them hitting them! You are the best tank in the arena… taunting human players.

No other class has such an ability, and you would be foolish not to utilize such an amazing ability.

So in summary. You are a glorified punching bag. You know they will come for your first. Rare that they will ignore you.

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Did you read the post? If not for the 1m/s there’d be no reason to pick the talent as 2% haste isn’t worth it.

I’ve watched zeepeyes streams, games are not a breeze, even his games at 2.2k look like a struggle. Watch his vod from 4ish days ago, his whole team tilting trolling eachother.

Drainer just plays ele in 2s and even then he does nothing but /dance or unequip weps and punch til dampening to go for a one shot.

I dont think anyone else regularly streams ele, smxn does rarely now after all the nerfs

Goreck doesnt ele at all anymore

I wonder why.

Like the op says ele doesnt bring unique SHAMAN utility aside from frost shock/tstorm/lasso. Your purges, totems etc can be provided by any shaman.

Its not about being jealous its about seriously looking at what the spec provides besides telegraphed instant burst every min/lasso

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How true. It is utterly amazing how people will automatically swap to the shaman as soon as they enter the area. I have even had targets swap from a half health player to me because I rolled in gins ablazing.

They arnt and most pvers dont care if ele sucks in pvp.all they want to do is cast chain lightning and earth quake in m+ and want to say how good the spec is…lol.

All elemental shamans are good for in bfa is clearing out trash in m+ and lust thats it.

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it’s actually pretty lame that elemental Fury does nothing in PvP and that earth shock hits for 3k less in PvP as well.

And the damage modifiers to LvB are laughable as well, it legit hits for 270% less damage in PvP if you include skyfury

Elemental fury is 175% up from 150% for everyone else.

I was wondering when you’d return with your complete lack of any basic shaman knowledge to troll the shaman threads again.

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I thought he quit his shaman for hunter?

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There you are i knew this would draw you out since you are always defending blizzard.

Ele shamans are wanted for clearing trash in m+ and lust why dont you ask people you do m+ with.if they say aoe that means clearing trash…lol

  1. I am not defending Blizzard

  2. Ele shams offer great m+ utility, and great single target damage on top of amazing AoE.

  3. You still have no clue what you are talking about, and merely show up to regularly troll shaman threads. So take this as my final reply here.

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/insert Michael Jackson Popcorn Meme

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(Speaking of ele here)

I’m just wondering why it sounds like people are saying clearing trash in mythic + like it’s a bad thing. Most of the time you spend in mythic + is clearing trash because that trash is the majority of the dungeon. The typical terminology for trash is related to raiding not mythic +. Killing mobs quickly in mythic + is actually extremely important and having something like earthquake that will periodically interrupt casts via knocking down mobs, a purge, and AOE stun, a poly effect, dispel, lust… these are all good tools on their own for mythic + but having them all on one class makes for a great and versatile mythic + dps slot meaning you will be able to fit into more different comps well. Their only really big weakness for mythic + is survivability.

Where do you wipe the most in mythic +? It’s not on bosses, it’s on trash otherwise known as mobs in Mythic + dungeons. Since Mythic + are relatively new in the scope of the game people are used to calling non boss mobs trash which is actually dumb and false for mythic +, it’s simply a term that was carried over by people who don’t realize that what they are wiping to and is keeping them back from completing higher keys is probably because they are treating mobs like raid trash.

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Ask groups why they like ele shamans in m+ and you will see and its not for their sungle target.

If they say for aoe in any way its for trash.

I have been playing a real mmo eso instead of wow.

They cant handle the truth…lol

I’ll tell you why. You see the guy saying that? Ok, he is a bad player.