Hey guys, just wondering, does the experiment still drop? If so, does it have to be a specific difficulty? On wowhead, the drops are all from normal. I've been running it in heroic... does it drop in heroic, or only in normal? Or only in 25man? I've killed ultraxion 102 times and still nuthin. Any information on this would be great. Thanks.
Pretty sure both it still drops but rng is rng.
Yeah I know it has a horrible drop rate... but I'd just like to know for sure.
I got it a few months ago on heroic 25m. It's still there.
I've had 2 drop in the last 5 months running with 6 characters. This was on 25 heroic. Meanwhile nearing 100 kills each of Elegons, Blazing Drake and LK mount without seeing them. Rng is rng
Got mine a few weeks ago on 25H.
Random loot is random.
Random loot is random.
I got it a couple weeks ago on 25m normal. Still no sign of the Blazing Drake though :(
Both Experiment 12-b and the Blazing Drake drop on normal or heroic, 10m or 25m, and I think the drop rate is the same for any difficulty. The Handmaiden only drops on 10m or 25m heroic though.
Both Experiment 12-b and the Blazing Drake drop on normal or heroic, 10m or 25m, and I think the drop rate is the same for any difficulty. The Handmaiden only drops on 10m or 25m heroic though.
12/10/2015 06:44 PMPosted by ColderI've killed ultraxion 102 times and still nuthin.
Keep in mind, that although it seems intuitive to assume that you should receive an item with a 1% drop rate at some point within 100 attempts, it doesn't actually work that way. It might surprise you to learn that more than 36% of people grinding something like this will require more than 100 attempts.
You're definitely in the minority, but still a sizeable one. That's assuming a rate of 1%, so if it is, in fact, more rare, then 100 tries with no luck puts you inside an even larger group of people.
If you keep killing him (as people have said, on any difficulty) you will most likely receive the drop at some point. Just hope you're not in the 13% who will require more than 200 tries or the 5% who will go more than 300 times before seeing it.
Items don't get removed unless there's a particular reason for it like the entire instance disappearing. Rare drops are rare.
up to 265 kills, still no drop. I guess I'm one of those really unlucky people Zothlar was talking about.
Sorry to hear that, only took me 60 runs to get all 3 mounts. 47 for 12b, 26 for Hand maiden, and 60 for blazing drake on 25 normal DW
300+ runs now, still no 12-b. I'm very frustrated and disheartened. I keep hearing about the people who get one their first try... and I've run it over 300 times across all my characters, and still nothing. Blizz, please implement some kind of system like the one you have running for legendairies, where if you still haven't had one drop for you after x mount of time, in this case, x amout of runs, you just get one, or your chances of getting it go up significantly. If that's not feasible, how about a system of coins rolls specifically for rolls on mount drops? I know it's rng, and for whatever reason my rng on Ultraxion sucks... but this is ridiculous. No one's luck is this bad. How is it fair that someone can walk in and get it first try, and then for the people like me who run a raid religiously and still haven't gotten their drop? Please help make it a little more fair. For all you folks who are going to say boo hoo life isn't fair, yeah, trust me, I know, but this isn't life, its a game, its supposed to be fun. Killing a boss every week and consistently not getting what you want, and watching other people get it, isn't fun. Thanks.
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08/08/2017 01:40 PMPosted by Colder300+ runs now, still no 12-b. I'm very frustrated and disheartened. I keep hearing about the people who get one their first try... and I've run it over 300 times across all my characters, and still nothing. Blizz, please implement some kind of system like the one you have running for legendairies, where if you still haven't had one drop for you after x mount of time, in this case, x amout of runs, you just get one, or your chances of getting it go up significantly. If that's not feasible, how about a system of coins rolls specifically for rolls on mount drops? I know it's rng, and for whatever reason my rng on Ultraxion sucks... but this is ridiculous. No one's luck is this bad. How is it fair that someone can walk in and get it first try, and then for the people like me who run a raid religiously and still haven't gotten their drop? Please help make it a little more fair. For all you folks who are going to say boo hoo life isn't fair, yeah, trust me, I know, but this isn't life, its a game, its supposed to be fun. Killing a boss every week and consistently not getting what you want, and watching other people get it, isn't fun. Thanks.
There's nothing unfair about applying the same rules regarding mount drops to everyone. Just because you have had some really bad luck while others have had remarkably good luck in getting a particular mount to drop does not mean that the game is treating you unfairly. If you're not having fun farming a mount from a 3-xpac old raid, don't do it. Find something else to do with your time.
08/08/2017 02:05 PMPosted by Swillbag08/08/2017 01:40 PMPosted by Colder300+ runs now, still no 12-b. I'm very frustrated and disheartened. I keep hearing about the people who get one their first try... and I've run it over 300 times across all my characters, and still nothing. Blizz, please implement some kind of system like the one you have running for legendairies, where if you still haven't had one drop for you after x mount of time, in this case, x amout of runs, you just get one, or your chances of getting it go up significantly. If that's not feasible, how about a system of coins rolls specifically for rolls on mount drops? I know it's rng, and for whatever reason my rng on Ultraxion sucks... but this is ridiculous. No one's luck is this bad. How is it fair that someone can walk in and get it first try, and then for the people like me who run a raid religiously and still haven't gotten their drop? Please help make it a little more fair. For all you folks who are going to say boo hoo life isn't fair, yeah, trust me, I know, but this isn't life, its a game, its supposed to be fun. Killing a boss every week and consistently not getting what you want, and watching other people get it, isn't fun. Thanks.
There's nothing unfair about applying the same rules regarding mount drops to everyone. Just because you have had some really bad luck while others have had remarkably good luck in getting a particular mount to drop does not mean that the game is treating you unfairly. If you're not having fun farming a mount from a 3-xpac old raid, don't do it. Find something else to do with your time.
Again, it's a game. Effort should equal reward. Unfortunately Blizzard doesn't seem to believe that anymore, as evidenced by raid finder and titanforges.
08/08/2017 08:11 PMPosted by SightblindërAgain, it's a game. Effort should equal reward. Unfortunately Blizzard doesn't seem to believe that anymore, as evidenced by raid finder and titanforges.
You say that as if farming old raids is particularly difficult. And save your preachiness regarding LFR and titanforging for another thread.
Everyone knows the rules regarding RNG mount drops. If you want to play the lottery, go ahead. If you don't, go do something else. But don't complain that the system is unfair because you haven't hit the jackpot yet.
I don't think you understand. I'm not complaining about rng. I understand how it works. I get that the drop rates are low. I'm unhappy with the amount of time I and others in my shoes have put into trying to get something, and not getting it. It's a game, not real life, therefore there should be an element of fairness to it. I think you would feel the same way if it was you in my situation. I'm not just complaining to complain that I I haven't gotten something. I've farmed a lot of mounts, trust me, I know it can take a long time and I diligently farmed those without complaint. I'm allowed to be frustrated here. 300+ runs and still nothing for all the effort I've put into it. Yes, farming old raids is easy, but they get very tiresome. Never mind the fact that continuing to run the same raid repeatedly with no change in loot drop is the very definition of insanity. A game should be fun, not work, and not frustration. I think you guys keep forgetting this is a game, not real life. Stop taking it so seriously. Games can be changed for the betterment of play. If blizz agrees with me, they will take what I've suggested into consideration.
08/09/2017 02:05 PMPosted by ColderI don't think you understand. I'm not complaining about rng. I understand how it works. I get that the drop rates are low. I'm unhappy with the amount of time I and others in my shoes have put into trying to get something, and not getting it. It's a game, not real life, therefore there should be an element of fairness to it. I think you would feel the same way if it was you in my situation. I'm not just complaining to complain that I I haven't gotten something. I've farmed a lot of mounts, trust me, I know it can take a long time and I diligently farmed those without complaint. I'm allowed to be frustrated here. 300+ runs and still nothing for all the effort I've put into it. Yes, farming old raids is easy, but they get very tiresome. Never mind the fact that continuing to run the same raid repeatedly with no change in loot drop is the very definition of insanity. A game should be fun, not work, and not frustration. I think you guys keep forgetting this is a game, not real life. Stop taking it so seriously. Games can be changed for the betterment of play. If blizz agrees with me, they will take what I've suggested into consideration.
You must not understand Blizz's business. They want you running those old raids, and they have no interest in making it easier for you to get a rare drop mount because (1) that would make the mount less rare, thereby cheapening its value amongst the community; and (2) once you get said mount, you'll stop running the raid, resulting in less stuff for you to do in game.
And no, you're not allowed to be frustrated over RNG mount drops. That's like someone getting upset over playing the lottery several times and not winning. The fact that you're still doing old raids for RNG mount drops clearly means that it serves some form of entertainment for you; otherwise, you wouldn't do it. If, however, you really are upset over the number of times you've played the raid mount lottery and not hit jackpot, then you should consider stopping the activity that is causing you such grief.
08/08/2017 08:11 PMPosted by Sightblindër08/08/2017 02:05 PMPosted by Swillbag...
There's nothing unfair about applying the same rules regarding mount drops to everyone. Just because you have had some really bad luck while others have had remarkably good luck in getting a particular mount to drop does not mean that the game is treating you unfairly. If you're not having fun farming a mount from a 3-xpac old raid, don't do it. Find something else to do with your time.
Again, it's a game. Effort should equal reward. Unfortunately Blizzard doesn't seem to believe that anymore, as evidenced by raid finder and titanforges.
Effort still does equal reward in the case of most raid mounts which is why a lot of them are 100% drops when the raid is current (although not this one since it's not from the end boss) ... farming a raid 6+ years after it was relevant and when you're 600 ilevels over the level it was tuned for isn't some Herculean effort though.
Its definitely tedious but I wouldn't say spending 15 minutes a week one shotting a handful of legacy raid bosses requires a ton of effort.
Swillbag, everyone is allowed to have an opinion, and yours does not invalidate mine. Stop acting like you're a dev and your opinion trumps everyone else. I am allowed to get frustrated. The game is not real life, therefore telling me acting like its the same as not winning the lottery is not a valid argument. I understand how it works. If you think I don't, look at how many mounts I've already farmed. I've never had any mount take this long to farm, however, and I'm not easily frustrated. This just seems excessive. My original post was in asking if its even still in the game. I'm not sure why you're taking my frustration personally, why you're getting angry at me for being frustrated, or for suggesting solutions, they're just that, suggestions. True, its not that difficult to farm said boss, but that's not really the point.
08/09/2017 02:05 PMPosted by ColderI don't think you understand. I'm not complaining about rng. I understand how it works. I get that the drop rates are low. I'm unhappy with the amount of time I and others in my shoes have put into trying to get something, and not getting it.
"I'm not complaining about rng. I'm just complaining that the pseudo-randomly generated numbers should have worked out in my favor after so many attempts."