Experience Eliminator

So with all the back and forth regarding how TBC classic should be implemented, I was thinking what about implementing the experience eliminator npc?

The classic crowd gets to stay at level 60, the TBC classic crowd gets to progress to level 70, Blizz could even explain away the NPC as being a part of a Classic+ experience so many people think they want. They could even push forward with the other expansion classics and provide the classic+ experience. This option requires the least amount of realm transfers in order to implement as well. Are there any reasons in particular why this isn’t being considered as an option?

Well even at level 60 you’d have access to a large set of items that aren’t in the game now. I imagine people would be annoyed about that somehow.

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Just makes more sense to let people copy their characters over onto new classic servers instead of having one sever split between two different expansions

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Why? The population is going to be split regardless, why add in the element of forcing realm transfers?

If half the server chooses to stay at 60 and the other half progresses to 70 then you have two separate communities packed into one server for no reason at all. If the people who want to stay in classic ship off the realm can be populated by other players interested in the same content.

There just isn’t any logical reason to keep them on the same server.

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Because XP lock wasn’t a thing until WotLK.

I’m just thinking down the road it’s going to be better to have them on the same server. What happens when it’s not 50% of Classic players but 90% that decided they wanted to progress to TBC classic? Because maybe not right away but over time the population of Classic is only going to decline and those players are going to need an out other than a realm transfer. I really don’t believe that a lot of Classic players are going to play much past the end when there is no more content. Do we really want a mess of dead Classic servers sitting around while TBC and Wrath classic are released? Tbh I just don’t think the classic crowd is going to be big enough after TBC classic is released to adversely affect the new TBC classic players. Unless they make separate Classic+ realms, which I don’t expect they will, then I think the XP eliminator is the most prudent choice to keep realm transfers to a minimum and the most people happy.

There were changes between Vanilla and TBC made to talent trees and other things like that, so I’d imagine that not everyone who signed up for Classic wants to play a TBC that’s been locked at 60, because it’s not quite the same thing. So moving everything to TBC and allowing players to lock-in at 60 is basically the same as eliminating Classic altogether in favor of the next expansion.

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I’m not playing on a TBC server. You can’t force me to play with you. You are not my real dad.

If I can’t stay on a Classic server when TBC is out, I will unsub. I know I am in the minority, but I am far from the only one. You, on the other hand will play TBC no matter what happens to me.

So Blizzard has a choice: force everyone to TBC servers and lose a small yet significant number of subs, or keep Classic servers open and lose no subs.

What do you think they’ll choose?

This can be dealt with in a Classic+ situation which allows for a lot of options. Allow XP lock during classic for twinks or don’t and only allow it for level 60. Have any talent changes made in TBC only apply after level 60. They could easily make TBC locked at 60 the same as classic. Really just seems to me like classic purists are a little bit arrogant about the appeal of classic and don’t like the idea of being on a TBC server even if it doesn’t affect them in any way.

I really wouldn’t get my hopes up.

I don’t expect it to happen but this is mostly speculation for that crowd. I’d think if Blizz went the Classic+ route this would be the best way to do so with minimal impact.

If you wanted to only play Classic (Vanilla), playing alongside level 61’s with greens twice as powerful as your items isn’t a cool thing.

I mean, why don’t people just stay at level 60 in retail and call it a day?

So out of site out of mind? Is it that much more inconvenient to see other players doing well? It’s not like they aren’t still getting that gear.

As for locking xp at 60 in retail it doesn’t provide the same leveling experience. I don’t believe classic players only wanted to do the raids again, we could do timewalking if that were the case.

Well yeah, it kind of is. A lot of people appreciate their characters for the power they have harvested through all their time and effort. Like I said, if you’re on your crown jewel main character that’s decked out in raid gear and you’re objectively less strong than some guy standing next to you in questing greens, it just isn’t right. Also, how rewarding would it be to put a bunch of effort into clearing naxx with your levels 60’s when a different group on your same server can breeze past it in greens at 70 and then one-shot you in a duel?

Edit: For the small amount of the playerbase where raid content was literally the only thing they cared about, like, the actual killing of the bosses was their only objective and enjoyment, it might fly for them. But that’s not the majority, not by a long shot.