Hey everyone!
I’m GM/RL of a mythic raiding guild, where we’re in a semi-hardcore environment and push CE each tier. Twice now, we unfortunately have been the victims of an ex-raider stealing our mythic raid ID lockout and holding it hostage so we can’t raid.
For reference, we’re currently two weeks into M Sire, and we have a raider who went up until M SLG with us, now just extending our mythic raid ID and sitting in there during our raid times/days.
I’ll be clear too, we used absolutely no demeaning language, attitude, etc. and clearly informed them why they wouldn’t be brought into M Sire after we dealt with M SLG issues.
I guess I’m at a loss for why this behavior isn’t corrected more, or if there’s future plans for mythic raid IDs to change on reset, even if extended from the prior week. We have been extending since M CoB, so it’s been the same ID for roughly two months.
At this time, all 20 of our raiders have reported him and we’re trying to see what other options we have, so we don’t run into this problem every week (already lost 1 raid nights to this).
Any feedback or information is always appreciated!
8 Likes
i thought guild masters and officers can extend the lockout
if they are a pain remove them from the guild
2 Likes
You guys shouldn’t treat your guilds as if it was a pug group lol
6 Likes
This is not the case this person was removed/left guild and was never an officer. He was able to hold the lockout hostage all last night and is attempting to do so again today.
I feel like there is more to this story.
14 Likes
It’s pretty dumb that this is even possible. Blame Blizzard for allowing this to actually be a thing people can do.
This happens more often than you think too. It’s crazy Blizz hasn’t done something about it
9 Likes
Devs must approve of this behavior. They are responsible for all sorts of bizarre abuses I have seen in the past. They really need to change the mythic lockout for the good of the game.
3 Likes
You can put in a ticket and let them know the situation. We had a gm actually fix it for us a long time ago with someone like that.
1 Like
That is an unfortunate possibility with how Mythic lockouts work. Groups that pug have this kind of thing happen - though usually the pug will just go sell it if it is a last boss lockout like yours.
Reporting him should yield results, but may take some time.
In the meantime, you should be able to do to him what he is doing to you - you just gotta login way before raid time when he is at work or whatever. Grab a guildie, form a 2 man raid group, and go into the instance well in advance of your raid time. As long as you remain in the instance no one outside the instance should be allowed in it. If you have raiders on all day, you should be able to keep the place locked down for most of a week - it’s 20 people vs. 1 remember.
Moving forward, you should make sure you stalk this guy and inform any future guilds he joins about this behavior. No self respecting guild would allow someone like this into their ranks. You might lose a week of prog, but at least he can’t ruin anyone else’s playtime.
18 Likes
You sure he / she is not in new guild and raiding on that lock out . Or they put a pug together . Its any body’s lock out that killed a boss in there . Not sure there is anything that can be done unless he is just setting in there by them self .
Yeah, we ended up being able find him by using alt+F4 a few seconds before it manually kicked us out (since he was using the lockout). We found him on an alt, literally sitting at Inerva’s boss room lol.
1 Like
No lmao, this person decided to just sit in a boss room for a few hours.
2 Likes
Yeah, we luckily have 2-3 raiders able to camp it out all day today. My only concern is that we will have to do this every week until we down M Sire, as we approach the end of the tier.
We had this happen during M Ilgy last tier TL:DR, we recruited a warrior since our arms had to leave due to IRL issues, he was not a good fit due to mechanics/performance and griefed us the next night.
We followed the same reporting procedure but no action was ever taken against him (to our knowledge).
1 Like
It really should be changed so only the guild leader or officers can extend the lock out.
17 Likes
We only raid with pug groups.
This is a problem as old as the game itself. I remember all too well back in BC (I didn’t raid in Vanilla) where a well known troll guild would regularly group up with members of top guilds under false pretenses, switch the party to a raid group, pass lead, and have one of their members quickly zone in to nab the raid ID and then get several of their own people with it so frick with us at raid time. We lost 2 or 3 weeks of Kael progression and had to institute a policy of literally not grouping up with anyone not in the guild on raid toons just to avoid it.
Likewise, we reported the behavior to a GM and were told to suck it up and that technically they had every right to the raid as we did and technically the GM isn’t wrong here. You take a pugger or guildie into your mythic raid, you are essentially screwing them out of any potential groups for the rest of the week. Now one would certainly argue raid lockouts can/should be boss based like everything else, but so long as a raid lockout exists, anyone who gets that ID can/should have every right to it as anyone else.
3 Likes
Same thing happens to us during MoP. The guy was hanging out actively selling the lockout. We reported him several times and Blizz did nothing.
Sorry guys 
2 Likes
What was the response time/process? We have a ticket open now and waiting on feedback
1 Like
Oh there is, we found out they were a secret russian spy. We decided to remove them from the raid group because they were a menace to daddy denathrius,. Therefore they said, None shall receive the CE.
1 Like