i am saying i have seen it in game happening to other players in the group i was in.
Actually i was not playing when that spec was released.
1 - I agree that any race that can’t transmog all their gear is a dumb idea. Pants and sleeves for mechagnomes and flying iguana people are a must.
2 - no one is ever going to be happy to have a preservation evoker in the group as long as it continues to mean you have to stand exactly where they want you to stand because they heal by shapes and none of those shapes include max range DPS.
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But in group content, DPS should be somewhat near the healer in most cases. You should never be so far away from the action.
I am sorry, I just don’t buy this sentiment that Pres Evokers are bad for a group. I’ve healed hundreds of instances since Prevoker was released, I never got any flack for anything. I’m not saying these negative comments aren’t being made, like I’m not calling anyone here a liar. I’ve just never experienced it. I had no idea people were “unhappy to have a preservation Evoker in their group,” it’s absolutely absurd to me.
I certainly do not advocate changing the fundamentals of a race/class just because a few morons don’t understand the game they’re playing.
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Meh, I’m just not fond of Dracs.
Nothing about how they look or their abilities, it’s the ground running I can’t stand, feels slower than a month of sundays going on foot on one. And yes I played on to max lvl after testing through in beta for it.
Just not a fan all around, don’t love em but I don’t hate em either.
I just have no desire to play one again.
So wait.
Is the basis of this complaint that we need to care specifically about the women streamers who won’t play an evoker purely because of their cosmetics?
And I am supposed to not laugh?
And that evoker looks are the primary reason people don’t play them? Not it’s class mechanics?
It’s not just about DPS being in Narnia.
There are plenty of situations where as a DPS is beneficial to be at max range because it allows more reaction time from traveling mechanics or you can simply out range major danger or the fight requires wide spreads (stinkbreath in brackenhide or basically the entire 2nd and 3rd bosses of NO as examples of each).
If an rdps are near Pres but not between them and the boss it’s immediately a problem because they can no longer hit the whole party at once. If an rdps is behind a Pres it’s immediately a problem because the Pres can’t actually back up any further to include the rdps in the shape of their breath due to range limits.
From the DPS perspective, you could invite any other healer and play with complete freedom of positioning, or you could invite a Pres and know that you have to adjust how you play to accommodate their handicap.
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Evokers and Vulpera will never be in my raids.
Why would you bring up Stinkbreath when that’s a segment that requires zero healing?
And groups stack for gale arrow and as much as possible anyway… for third boss.
Second boss, I guess, to a minor degree.
But playing at max range, you’ll outrange someone with 40 yards too.
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I would 100% play this class if I wasn’t forced to look like a flying iguana in combat.
If some people want to look like diabetic owls, you do you boo, I’ll glyph the starry form on my moonkin.
If some people want to look like fire breathing kobolds, great. The class sounds cool but the dracthyr appearance is a complete deal breaker.
Normal people aren’t exactly keen on playing as blatant deviantart fetish characters.
Pretty sure there is more r34 of elf or vulpera.
People get hit by stinkbreath all the time. If people were good at not getting hit we’d all be playing 4 DPS.
NO second boss does a ton of damage on Tyrannical and there is zero shot a pres can heal a ranged DPS if they didn’t coordinate being adjacent to each other.
NO third boss, the fear circle is basically 30 yards, it’s going to make ranged not stand in front of the evoker.
HOI first boss, those puddles have to get dropped far away and they tick hard. If you have a Pres evoker you better plan on saving yourself because they will be no help. Theres a lot of spread on the last boss but arguably the evoker stops offer unexpected value in the intermission.
The magmamammoth in Nelth, lots of value in being far away for waves. Last boss of RLP, highly unlikely group will coordinate puddle drops to accommodate Pres.
It’s not that Pres can’t, but if you’re building a group and you could take anyone, why take the one healer that punishes everyone else?
Had a Dracthyr that kept overlapping puddles on Rashok and then planted one directly in the center the other day.
Whole raid was calling them a test tube lizard. Seemed well deserved to me.
I’m sorry but I think the disdain for the way dracthyr look is pretty well deserved and they have years of catching up to reach the level of hate that elves have received over the years so hang in there guys.
Stinkbreath one shots on any relevant difficulty.
NO third boss, the fear circle is basically 30 yards, it’s going to make ranged not stand in front of the evoker.
Isn’t that relevant. People stack up for arrow.
HOI first boss, those puddles have to get dropped far away and they tick hard. If you have a Pres evoker you better plan on saving yourself because they will be no help.
Depends on strat. Some groups drop them right in melee range.
No there is not. The last time this conversation came up, this concept was shot down by everyone.
Literally never once in my entire time playing this character since launch has anyone ever said a word to me about the lizard experiment. Only this cesspool of a forum has this type of ridiculous mentality.
And vulpera are the exact same thing, undisguised furry bait.
The illithids have already invaded in Burning Crusade.
Shame that BG3 didn’t come first, and then people can roleplay romancing the Emperor in WOW.
I don’t want to have yet another argument with you.
If your position is that there is never a situation where it’s beneficial to be far away i think that’s absurd and we’re just going to agree to disagree.
I pushed 3k S1-3 in DF, in every season our healer either mained or alted Pres, and in every single season there were fights that they just struggled with because of positional and ranged handicaps. And that’s with a team of people regularly used to accommodating for shape healing shenanigans. When they swapped to Druid or Shaman same boss would die with zero issues.
Your experiences may differ from mine, but my experience was that even excellent Preservation evokers can be a problem for their group if an encounter plays against the limits of their design, and no other healer has a design that so heavily limits group positioning.
We love the guy, evokers bring cool stuff, but the positioning issues are not infrequent or inconsequential.
Range only really comes into play on Magmatusk.
People have to go out of their way to grief on other bosses for it to be an issue.