We’re not talking about talents right now. We’re talking about abilities. Augmentation got several new abilities, so how is what we’re discussing here any different? We’re spit balling ideas at the very least, but if someone wants to take the time to design an entire class that’s cool. Blizz also pays people to fully flesh out specs, so…
And as I said, as a core foundation, you should be talking abilities expanded out of the class tree. You would then realize that quicksand makes no sense while landslide exists, compaction makes no sense while obsidian scales exists, etc
as much as i like Blizz trying out new stuff with the support themed Augmentation, and i agree not all new classes must tank. I think they would have saved themselves a lot of trouble if they have just made the spec a tanking spec; they wouldn’t have had to deal with all the balancing issues they still having today, and they would have fixed the problem of a new “race” not having access to all 3 roles.
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I see what you mean. I still think Landslide and Quicksand could be mutually exclusive abilities. Landslide roots as it does now, or you can grab Quicksand for an easily placed slow if you like.
You’re definitely right with Obsidian Scales and it’s already a Black dragon ability so it would fit perfectly as a tank CD, buffed by talents/spec of course.
With all the augmentation balancing issues, it is still possible that Blizzard gives up support classes, and converts augmentation to a tank spec.
Augmentation is mainly based on earth skills, so when they keep that, it would fit into a tank spec. They just need to add a taunt and defensives, convert some of the skills to melee attacks, and change the primary stat to agi.
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You have to differentiate Evokers and Dracthyr.
Evokers are all about magic and caster. they are those Dracthyr that can use the Magic of the 5 swarms the best.
Dracthyr on the other hand are created to be the perfect solidier as you said. So it would make sense if Dracthyr get a Tanking Class at some point.
You don’t have to separate Evokers and Dracthyr. If you spent as much time looking for synergies as you did differences, then you could see how Evokers channeling the Black flight’s magic, makes sense for a tanking spec.
Anyways, you’re just reverting back to one of your previous “points” about magic users not be able to tank which was already debunked lol.
Please, say something different, or nothing at all man.
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While I would have preferred a tank spec, Augmentation is very cool.
That said, if Blizzard ever decided to nix the support DPS concept, I’d be down for Augmentation to become a caster tank spec. 
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If they make a 4th spec for Evoker, they should call it Fortification. Goes with the theme (Devastation, Preservation, Augmentation).
Dragon tanks are such a missed opportunity. They would look amazing with a shield and sword, or maybe some claw weapons.
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If dracthyr ever get other classes Warrior is likely on the front lines.
Meaning a dracthyr with sword and shield will be possible.
Yeah that’s true too.
Casters being unable to tank because they are casters if lore wise incorrect. The idea of magic is that it has infinite possibilities
A mage could use ice magic to empower their defenses and tank.
A warlock could use fel magic to give themselves demon skin with high resistance
Evoker use their earth magic etc
In GW2 for a very long time the defacto tank class for raiding was actually the Chronomancer, and rn on Season of Discovery classic Warlocks can tank
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Evoker and Dracthyr came out linked together. I, as well as others, would like to see an Evoker tank spec because it simply makes sense for reasons stated above and there’s demand for it! Is allowing more people to tank a bad thing? I would think more tanks would help reduce queue times and get pugs going quicker. How many times have you been waiting on a tank for “insert activity here”?
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Honestly I was really hoping the 3rd spec was going to be a tank. It just makes sense for black dragon earth magic spec.
Augmentation just seems weird, I get intent behind making a support class, but historically, support classes were hellish to balance. I remember when every raid needed several pallies for auras, 1 boomkin for 5% spell crit, feral was a tank and require for physical crit buff and so on.
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I don’t know why this made me laugh so much.
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I think this whole support spec crap needs to go. Make it a tank spec and call support a failed trial. Black dragons should be tanks . Imo
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Tanking spec or not, I think at least Evokers should wield shields. If Shaman can, no reason why they can’t. There’s even an NPC with a shield already.
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For those saying that Dracthyr’s aren’t build to be tanks or even melee.
First of all: Vulpera, Gnomes, goblins
Second: countless npc dracthyrs we’ve seen using swords and shields
Third: the true Augmentation Dracthyrs in lore, the Adamant Vigil, were melee polearm users, we see them in the legacy videos and (and spoilers from the war of the scaleborn novel here) Emberthal even soloed Razageth and hold her at spear point
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I’d really love to see them add tanking to the evoker class kit in some form. Right now I have Prot Pally for when im tanking and Devoker when i want to dps because i prefer ranged dps than melee. Would be really cool to have 1 toon that can do both.
You can count me amongst those who were disappointed that aug turned out to be a support spec rather than a tank spec when it was introduced. I’d love to see it reworked into more of a tank or add a 4th spec that is more tank focused.
With them not announcing any new support specs for the war within it looks like they are going to be leaning on hero talents to introduce support elements to existing classes if the lightsmith is any idication which could open up augmentation to a rework of some kind including as a tank.
Either way having a cool magic driven, draconic tank class would be a really interesting addition. I just hope the playstyle is one i would enjoy.
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Not going to happen.