Are kinda nutty, like REAL nutty,
They can put alter time on an enemy to juke a heal, they can freeze a team mate for 4 seconds making them immune to everything “it also doesn’t waste cds if you pop Combustion or something it freezes those as well”
Then they have an AoE purge that they can purge up to 3 things at once,
and they have aura mastery for them selves as of right now.
Pretty much every thread I say this, but if they give mages deep freeze back imagine a 6 second deep freeze with evoker x.x. It’s gonna be Evoker/Mage/Rogue, the mage and rogue will both a have a kidney shot they can use 
What’s the point of discussing anything that hasn’t been released yet aside from sounds cool/doesn’t sound cool?
Go read SL arcane tooltips and tell me how good or bad it sounds
The most important thing is tuning and nobody knows how that will be until df s1 starts
Crazy the amount of complaints anytime something is released
Eh, looking at concepts is not a bad thing right now.
There is 0 chance all of those will make it to live, even Ion said they are purposely throwing everything at it and then tuning down from there, keeping the more interesting abilities and changing the lesser interesting ones.
With that said, yeah, from what I’ve seen Evokers are INSANE in PvP. They are basically a better MW with actual utility. They will easily be the best RM healer in the game, especially if they keep that 50% longer CC cd.
i’m rerolling once this xpac comes out. gonna be a dragonboi.
Looking at concepts isn’t what I’m talking about, more so the “_______ is going to be busted if it isn’t changed” prior to any experience of how it actually works or performs
Uhdk has had the same kit for this entire expansion and went from barely played to fighting it half the time or more
Compare current arms and fury war using only kits and tooltips and tell me which one is played more
Just saying that tuning is important so hold off on the sky is falling comments every time a talent tree is released
Oh ya I agree, I think its ok to say that this idea looks broken but freaking out about numbers that are going to change numerous times is bad for sure.
No because if it isn’t changed and no one says anything then yes those pvp talents will be busted.
Have you actually tested to see if they’re busted , though?
enters a forum designed for discussion.
tells people to stop discussions.
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We already know having a 4sec immunity is crazy strong(greater fade). Imagine having 2 of them and being able to give it to your allies.
ima be a dragon dont nerf plz
if you see me standing over over your dinner plate with my pants down squatting and grunting, you can safely say im about to bend one out
then i’d say, HOW DO YOU KNOW IF IM GONNA POOP ITS NOT OUT YET
thats how you sound