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Not necessarily. The plan was to conquer Teldrassil, not kill Malfurion or Tyrande. With Teldrassil held hostage, they could use it as a threat to protect Silvermoon and UC, as well as fracture the Alliance. Malfurion and Tyrande werenât even mentioned in the original plan.
A Good War even specifically mentions how they arenât the target.
If the Horde managed to kill both Tyrande and Malfurion, yes, it would be a great victory that would weaken the Alliance, but the objective was supposed to be conquering the World Tree.
Really, it isnât until the end after Malfurion was spared that, suddenly, killing Malfurion was an important step of the plan. That just taking Teldrassil wasnât enough.
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Apparently because of this reason.
The story of Malfurionâs miraculous survival would have spread among the armies of the Alliance as proof that they were blessed in their cause.
Did you play Horde side of War of Thorns? most of it is actively trying to Kill MalfurionâŚâŚ And getting your butt kicked by him, might I add.
She tells us he has to die. Saurfangâs understanding is that it is irrelevant. It seems like she never tells him it is a big deal, he spares him, then she says âthatâs a big deal.â
The look in Sylvanasâs eyes gave Saurfang pause. She was more annoyed than he would have expected. If the Horde managed to kill both Tyrande and Malfurion, yes, it would be a great victory that would weaken the Alliance, but the objective was supposed to be conquering the World Tree. That wedge would split the Alliance no matter who ruled the night elves.
Saurfang considered, not for the first time, that Sylvanas wasnât telling him everything.
Does that matter? Saurfang asked himself.
No , he decided. She wasnât lying about the importance of this objective, and if she had plans beyond the coming battle, well . . . she was warchief, was she not?
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Aye. And personally, I found that as shoddy reasoning. I have trouble seeing how his miraculous survival and Eluneâs perceived blessing changes anything about the Hordeâs initial plan.
The Alliance would still not have the resources to meaningfully oppose the Horde in Kalimdor.
The Night Elves would still be held hostage by Teldrassil.
The Night Elves would still push Anduin to help them, which might upset the Gilneans (even when we later learned Genn would have supported the Night Elves, this was the Hordeâs prediction)
So I donât follow the bookâs logic that Malfurionâs survival would turn the war into the meatgrinder that Saurfang fears. Unless the book means that the Night Elves wouldnât demand the Alliance act and, thus, the Alliance wouldnât splinter.
If thatâs what itâs aiming for, then I suppose it works for an explanation. Just not one I like.
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Okay, and? Kill Malfurion was still the main theme of the War of Thorns Questline.
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That the plan is awkwardly conveyed and borders on inconsistent at times. That the premise throughout the story is that heâs kind of irrelevant until he âmiraculously survives.â Whereas weâre directly told in the quest that it is very important to preventing Night Elf insurrection.
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This is not even true though.
It is because in the story (by story, I mean A Good War) you can see where Saurfang notes his understanding that Malfurionâs death is irrelevant until the end. The quote has been given twice now.
Saurfangâs knowledge of Sylvanasâ plans doesnât change the plans themselvesâŚ
I donât think itâs hard, nuBlizz just doesnât want to. All the guys who wrote WC3 are gone, and the dream of honorable monsters was their dream. BFAâs writers want the Horde to be kickass scary monsters for the pure white Alliance to hate and eventually defeat.
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Did I say it did?
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You sure are implying such.
The fact the writing team even hints about the Horde should feel bad about killing Alliance is utter nonsense.
No one should feel bad for killing the other faction.
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I dunno man. Sometimes I feel bad when I see a random Hordie zone in to a WSG when theyâre being graveyard camped and I just think⌠âGee whiz, that poor dude just zoned in to a losing battleground. Poor guy!â
Then I go back to camping him and his friends.
Ahh Iva, still salty over the fact no one liked your BE/HE post.
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In this case, it makes sense. I canât imagine the Horde is on board with this war.
So why write it to begin with? Also youâre wrong even after the Burning of the Tree the Horde has been in very much on board with this war besides Varok until the raising of Derek.
Put it this way, would you be annoyed if Blizzard wrote a story where the Night Elves were feeling really bad about attack the Horde right now? So much so that the race started to break apart over killing the Horde? And the one that was pro killing the Horde were all killed off at the end of that?
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Thatâs not the basis of pragmatism. Pragmatism is about putting practicality ahead of theory and ideology. Developing the Blight was pragmatic because it was about simply and effectively taking out the Lich Kingâs troops and simultaneously denying him the ability to raise replacements.
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